Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[drdel]

The Beeb put out something yesterday that said children's safety and security after Brexit will be compromised. Can't remember all the detail but it was an appalling bit of journalism. Licence fee payers are paying for that level of rubbish.

Tis funny that most of the non-UK perishables from my supermarket comes from Keyna and other places outside EU
, but the dear old BBC are too lazy to do any research.

 

[Foxholer]

The Beeb put out something yesterday that said children's safety and security after Brexit will be compromised. Can't remember all the detail but it was an appalling bit of journalism. Licence fee payers are paying for that level of rubbish.

Twaddle!!!

I believe this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47298181 is the article.

The, thoroughly legit concerns expressed in the letter - from the 4 Children's Commissioners - were no different (equivalently) to those expressed by other organisations/companies with pan-European procedure, standards etc.

They did not state safety and security will be compromised - the word used was 'could' which, imo, is absolutely correct ans was one of the arguments against Brexit used, unsuccessfully, by the Remain side. To mitigate the effect of Brexit, it is absolutely correct to seek assurances from government that (equivalent) procedures/protocols will be put in place - or continued.

It would be a derogation of duty for those 4 Commissioners not to raise the, potential, issue. Likewise, the response from 'the Ministry' was entirely appropriate. There will be loads more equivalent 'issue raised/assurance sought/assurance given' requests from all sorts of (more or less emotive sorts of) bodies. But this was always going to be one of the bureaucratic headaches about Leaving.

The article may have been 'concerning' or 'scary'. At worst, it might be label-able, by the likes of ERG, as 'scare-mongering'. But it was certainly not 'an appalling piece of journalism'! I'm happier funding this journalism than to buy Newspapers!

 

[SocketRocket]

Twaddle!!!

I believe this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47298181 is the article.

The, thoroughly legit concerns expressed in the letter - from the 4 Children's Commissioners - were no different (equivalently) to those expressed by other organisations/companies with pan-European procedure, standards etc.

They did not state safety and security will be compromised - the word used was 'could' which, imo, is absolutely correct ans was one of the arguments against Brexit used, unsuccessfully, by the Remain side. To mitigate the effect of Brexit, it is absolutely correct to seek assurances from government that (equivalent) procedures/protocols will be put in place - or continued.

It would be a derogation of duty for those 4 Commissioners not to raise the, potential, issue. Likewise, the response from 'the Ministry' was entirely appropriate. There will be loads more equivalent 'issue raised/assurance sought/assurance given' requests from all sorts of (more or less emotive sorts of) bodies. But this was always going to be one of the bureaucratic headaches about Leaving.

The article may have been 'concerning' or 'scary'. At worst, it might be label-able, by the likes of ERG, as 'scare-mongering'. But it was certainly not 'an appalling piece of journalism'! I'm happier funding this journalism than to buy Newspapers!

Twaddle!!!!!!!! Why would the UK and EU not communicate over child abuse after Brexit? Will some iron curtain descend down the middle of the channel, it's hyped twaddle of the first order.

 

[Mudball]

BTW, i might have missed this news.. So the richest British fella who is a keen Brexit supporter has decided to leave Britian for Tax purposes. Surely nothing to do with Brexit, but such hypocrisy..

https://inews.co.uk/news/britains-richest-man-jim-ratcliffe-ineos-tax-plan/

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I think you need to think hard about practicalitie. This stuff 'smuggled' from UK to Ireland in such volumes would then need to be transported to the EU! : any such pattern would be very obvious.

You have put words in my mouth and commented on stuff that was not in the post.

Are you aware that the NI/Ireland Border is over 300 miles long......I doubt it.
By comparison the Scottish border with England is 96 miles
PS...…..On reflection, I don't think you are even aware that Ireland is actually in the EU.

 

[Foxholer]

Twaddle!!!!!!!! Why would the UK and EU not communicate over child abuse after Brexit? Will some iron curtain descend down the middle of the channel, it's hyped twaddle of the first order.

Indeed... twaddle! The Commissioners are simply doing their job - seeking reassurance that the government has it covered! And, if you can actually be bothered to look rather than simply over-react, Hobbit's main criticism seemed to be about the quality of journalism, not the content!

Do you panic when a police car goes past your house? Or do you simply feel 'comfortable' knowing they are 'out and about'!

PS. That number of exclamation marks is excessive, even for you - at least at this time of evening!

 

[drdel]

Are you aware that the NI/Ireland Border is over 300 miles long......I doubt it.
By comparison the Scottish border with England is 96 miles
PS...…..On reflection, I don't think you are even aware that Ireland is actually in the EU.

Read the Post and don't be a twit.

 

[Foxholer]

... don't be a twit.

Wasted words!

 

[Mudball]

So our great Brexiteer Trade Sec who promised to have trade deals done in a jiffy after we left the EU now says that it can’t be done on time. I am assuming we do tons of trade with Faroe Islands and the Palestine Authority

So are Breshitters now dabbling in Project Fear?

 

[SocketRocket]

Indeed... twaddle! The Commissioners are simply doing their job - seeking reassurance that the government has it covered! And, if you can actually be bothered to look rather than simply over-react, Hobbit's main criticism seemed to be about the quality of journalism, not the content!

Do you panic when a police car goes past your house? Or do you simply feel 'comfortable' knowing they are 'out and about'!

PS. That number of exclamation marks is excessive, even for you - at least at this time of evening!

My point was nothing to do with Hobbits post. No, I don't panic when a police car goes past my house. I thought I would join the trend you set with over Exclaimanizating (learned that one from George Bush Junior)

 

[SocketRocket]

So our great Brexiteer Trade Sec who promised to have trade deals done in a jiffy after we left the EU now says that it can’t be done on time. I am assuming we do tons of trade with Faroe Islands and the Palestine Authority

So are Breshitters now dabbling in Project Fear?

Brexshiteers sounds better 👍

 

[Foxholer]

My point was nothing to do with Hobbits post. No, I don't panic when a police car goes past my house. I thought I would join the trend you set with over Exclaimanizating (learned that one from George Bush Junior)

And I thought you were a 'leader' not a 'follower'!

 

[SocketRocket]

And I thought you were a 'leader' not a 'follower'!

I don't frequent such places.

 

[clubchamp98]

It’s currently IN the lounge, now we must vote whether to LEAVE and move to OOB.

You have to stay in the lounge for forty years before you get a vote.

 

[harpo_72]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...pect-their-constituents-vote-on-brexit/24/05/

Bit naughty... needs to be de selected for not following constituency’s opinion.

 

[Foxholer]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...pect-their-constituents-vote-on-brexit/24/05/

Bit naughty... needs to be de selected for not following constituency’s opinion.

I'm sure he'd argue (far more eloquently than me) that he was following the Party Manifesto, whereas they weren't. And as the Referendum didn't use Parliamentary electorates, (I believe Council ones were used) he might be able to argue that absolute comparison in 'his' area, covering Bath as well as his Parliamentary electorate (North East Somerset) was inappropriate.

 

[oxymoron]

Why the hell is Corbyn going to Brussels to tell them his version of an exit plan ? Last time i looked he was not in charge of the government so why is he over there ? This stuff is just playing in to their hands regarding negotiations
he needs to keep out of it and just keep representing terrorists and their wives who want to return here . He really is a t**t of the first order .

Rant over now going to watch the Sheffield flypast in honor of people who died to keep us free so this knob could spout his crap .

 

[Taz]

Why the hell is Corbyn going to Brussels to tell them his version of an exit plan ? Last time i looked he was not in charge of the government so why is he over there ? This stuff is just playing in to their hands regarding negotiations
he needs to keep out of it and just keep representing terrorists and their wives who want to return here . He really is a t**t of the first order .

Rant over now going to watch the Sheffield flypast in honor of people who died to keep us free so this knob could spout his crap .

Especially when he took Stamer with him and they don't seem to agree on anything !

 

[drdel]

Why the hell is Corbyn going to Brussels to tell them his version of an exit plan ? Last time i looked he was not in charge of the government so why is he over there ? This stuff is just playing in to their hands regarding negotiations
he needs to keep out of it and just keep representing terrorists and their wives who want to return here . He really is a t**t of the first order .

Rant over now going to watch the Sheffield flypast in honor of people who died to keep us free so this knob could spout his crap .

He's not even bright enough to realise that Barnier et al are using him and Starmer to contest the UK's position. What a surprise revelation that they support his desire for a customs union

 

[harpo_72]

I'm sure he'd argue (far more eloquently than me) that he was following the Party Manifesto, whereas they weren't. And as the Referendum didn't use Parliamentary electorates, (I believe Council ones were used) he might be able to argue that absolute comparison in 'his' area, covering Bath as well as his Parliamentary electorate (North East Somerset) was inappropriate.

Perhaps but he wasn’t given the right by his constituency think I would ask for him to be removed as he is not representing me. I think some have made the comment about Anna Soubry not representing her constituency.