Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Do you not remember what you post ? You called Stu a sore loser ?! And I have no doubt if I go back there will be further posts of you calling people sore losers

You just came onto the thread tonight and posted straight away that Stu was a sore loser

So I’ll ask you - do you think it’s all some sort of game and do you even think of the possible consequences it has on people’s lives

And you suggest people want people to suffer just to say “I told you so” - that to me shows exactly what you think of people, maybe it’s the arrogance of “winning”

No.
Yes.
 
If our MP's are reflected in the same way this thread has been, is it any wonder we are gazing down the barrel of a howitzer.
It's a bloody travisty.:mad:
 
Worldwide motor production capacity has been too high for several years. Most of the excess is in diesel models. Car makers were slow to appreciate the speed at which the market would switch to electric. All manufacturers are having to invest heavily in the new processes.

Honda is going to invest in Japan to serve the global market. It makes no commercial sense to make investment in Europe when it has capacity and capital at home. Brexit is a factor but it's pretty far down the list.
 
I've very little sympathy for those leave areas and leave voters, who are now reaping the rewards of their vote.

I genuinely fear for those who didn't vote to leave but will end up being fucked over.

They aren't reaping the rewards of the vote; they are reaping the reward of our politicians' incompetence.
 
Can you back this opinion up with some actual hard evidence?
Of course its an opinion, most of what's posted here is opinion. I dont need to back it up with hard evidence as its an opinion and based on what i read on this forum. Many remainers here trawl the net for scraps that try to discredit Brexit as a failure, not all but many.
 
Of course its an opinion, most of what's posted here is opinion. I dont need to back it up with hard evidence as its an opinion and based on what i read on this forum. Many remainers here trawl the net for scraps that try to discredit Brexit as a failure, not all but many.

Well, it's MY opinion that your 'True though' post was..well...twaddle!
 
Wasn't it inevitable that the Japanese motor industry would move their production back to their homeland for their own countrymen as soon as the EU gave them a free trade deal, after all, the only reason they all set up factories here was to take advantage of access to the EU through our membership
 
I'm genuinely disappointed at the amount of people who are so desperate for Brexit to fail, and fail dramatically, just so that they can feel smug and wear an 'I told you so' smirk on their face.

Or
Perhaps we are genuine caring and thoughtful people who are 'desperate' to save the UK from the utter financial madness of Brexit.
 
Wasn't it inevitable that the Japanese motor industry would move their production back to their homeland for their own countrymen as soon as the EU gave them a free trade deal, after all, the only reason they all set up factories here was to take advantage of access to the EU through our membership

Strangely enough, you'd be amazed how many Japanese manufacturers with plants around the world are returning manufacturing to Japan. Its been going on for a few years now. Some of it down to a weaker Yen and some of it down to Trump's trade wars with countries where Japanese manufacturers have a factory.

Is Brexit a reason for this? Probably but only a small part of the why.
 
Strangely enough, you'd be amazed how many Japanese manufacturers with plants around the world are returning manufacturing to Japan. Its been going on for a few years now. Some of it down to a weaker Yen and some of it down to Trump's trade wars with countries where Japanese manufacturers have a factory.

Is Brexit a reason for this? Probably but only a small part of the why.

Given the amount of time it takes to close down a production line in a car assembly plant, if it were only about Brexit then Japan would be daft to announce the closure of factories before anyone knows the final deal (or no deal) why would they just not wait until the 29th?
 
Wasn't it inevitable that the Japanese motor industry would move their production back to their homeland for their own countrymen as soon as the EU gave them a free trade deal, after all, the only reason they all set up factories here was to take advantage of access to the EU through our membership

Not necessarily. Prior to Brexit we had better arrangements for Honda than the Japanese FTA. Post Brexit we won't. Sure there are other factors but looks like Brexit was the tipping point.
 
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