Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Deleted member 1147]

They're not and never have been.

Based on their results I can only agree

 

[drdel]

I'm amused that Barnier, who has played hard ball over the backstop, is now reminding Ireland that if there is 'No Deal ' they will need a border control. Where has he been for all this time?

 

[Sweep]

Based on their results I can only agree

That’s the problem. They are not their results. You may wish to address your concerns to the Europe Department at No.10.

 

[Sweep]

I'm amused that Barnier, who has played hard ball over the backstop, is now reminding Ireland that if there is 'No Deal ' they will need a border control. Where has he been for all this time?

I am also amused that his position has changed radically during the course of this week.

 

[Sweep]

Or just read all other posts first before spouting off ? Now there's a thought.

Or come back when you are in a better mood. Or when you are prepared to be civil. Now there’s a thought.

 

[drdel]

I am also amused that his position has changed radically during the course of this week.

The French have some principles: and if you don't like those they'll find some others!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

That’s the problem. They are not their results. You may wish to address your concerns to the Europe Department at No.10.

Agreed - they didn't achieve anything, did they - useless!

... and these are the people that Leavers want to give back control too

 

[Sweep]

Agreed - they didn't achieve anything, did they - useless!

... and these are the people that Leavers want to give back control too

As we all know the Dept for Exiting the EU were not allowed to handle or negotiate the exiting of the EU. Talks were held behind their back and it was their boss who arranged it. Maybe if they had been allowed to deal with it, maybe if ministers who believed in Brexit were allowed to do their job, we would all be in a better position now, including the EU.
I can’t see how anyone can be blamed for anything if they aren’t allowed to do their job.
As for giving back control. Even the shower we have in now is better than being run by the EU.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Are you suggesting that they are all so useless she didn't trust them to do it themselves, and had to step in and deal with it for them?

 

[robinthehood]

Or come back when you are in a better mood. Or when you are prepared to be civil. Now there’s a thought.

Nice

 

[ger147]

Are you suggesting that they are all so useless she didn't trust them to do it themselves, and had to step in and deal with it for them?

No - TM is a control freak with a very small circle of people she works with, which doesn't include her cabinet.

 

[drdel]

Those who want to Remain might want to note that the EU has stagnated, since the ECB has recently stopped the 3trillion of QE that was supporting their 'growth' and yet these numpties in Brussels are surprised!!

 

[Tashyboy]

As first reported in the Daily Tash re Queenie gettin get involved. It seems Queenie has opened her cakehole again in a round about way at the local WI branch. She has been telling folk that " people should respect one another's views". Wonder if she has been reading this forum.
FYI she travelled in an UBER cab after hearing Phil is still driving.

 

[SocketRocket]

Agreed - they didn't achieve anything, did they - useless!

... and these are the people that Leavers want to give back control too

They were marginalised By May, that's why they couldn't support her Chequers and Exit Deal. Surely you can see that?

 

[User62651]

As first reported in the Daily Tash re Queenie gettin get involved. It seems Queenie has opened her cakehole again in a round about way at the local WI branch. She has been telling folk that " people should respect one another's views". Wonder if she has been reading this forum.
FYI she travelled in an UBER cab after hearing Phil is still driving.

Think this forum is bad try twitter!

Load of frustrated golfers in winter here, as soon as The Masters starts and folks can take their frustrations out slashing at a bad lie in a bunker or 5 off the tee, it'll be harmonious banter again.

 

[SocketRocket]

I'm amused that Barnier, who has played hard ball over the backstop, is now reminding Ireland that if there is 'No Deal ' they will need a border control. Where has he been for all this time?

The EU negotiators have been using a rather naive Irish Leader to frustrate Brexit. Now they and he. are realising it is a flawed strategy.

 

[Foxholer]

Those who want to Remain might want to note that the EU has stagnated, since the ECB has recently stopped the 3trillion of QE that was supporting their 'growth' and yet these numpties in Brussels are surprised!!

A touch hypocritical of you if this is truly your view. It wasn't long ago when you were criticising the ECB for its QE policy! Of course there will be a effect when QE is turned off. A similar effect happened in UK, though perhaps better (easier) controlled purely because the BofE only had 1 economy to 'manage'.

But hey-ho, why not do what journos do and manufacture a connection between an event and the view you are trying to promote!

And 'stagnating' is hardly the appropriate word either - at least it's an exaggeration of the (slightly?) not unexpectedly negative view of both markets and, probably, the ECB itself. The IMF still predicts growth, though less than previously. It's Italy's problems that seem most likely to be problematic - as Germany seems to have recovered from last quarter.

It's only a few weeks since QE was turned off, though there was plenty of notification that it would happen, so too early to really tell what the 'medium term' effects will be.

 

[drdel]

A touch hypocritical of you if this is truly your view. It wasn't long ago when you were criticising the ECB for its QE policy! Of course there will be a effect when QE is turned off. A similar effect happened in UK, though perhaps better (easier) controlled purely because the BofE only had 1 economy to 'manage'.

But hey-ho, why not do what journos do and manufacture a connection between an event and the view you are trying to promote!

And 'stagnating' is hardly the appropriate word either - at least it's an exaggeration of the (slightly?) not unexpectedly negative view of both markets and, probably, the ECB itself. The IMF still predicts growth, though less than previously. It's Italy's problems that seem most likely to be problematic - as Germany seems to have recovered from last quarter.

It's only a few weeks since QE was turned off, though there was plenty of notification that it would happen, so too early to really tell what the 'medium term' effects will be.

 

[drdel]

A touch hypocritical of you if this is truly your view. It wasn't long ago when you were criticising the ECB for its QE policy! Of course there will be a effect when QE is turned off. A similar effect happened in UK, though perhaps better (easier) controlled purely because the BofE only had 1 economy to 'manage'.

But hey-ho, why not do what journos do and manufacture a connection between an event and the view you are trying to promote!

And 'stagnating' is hardly the appropriate word either - at least it's an exaggeration of the (slightly?) not unexpectedly negative view of both markets and, probably, the ECB itself. The IMF still predicts growth, though less than previously. It's Italy's problems that seem most likely to be problematic - as Germany seems to have recovered from last quarter.

It's only a few weeks since QE was turned off, though there was plenty of notification that it would happen, so too early to really tell what the 'medium term' effects will be.

Not being a hypocrite - Still critical of the QE as its just fuelled debt driven 'growth'.

 

[Hobbit]

Not being a hypocrite - Still critical of the QE as its just fuelled debt driven 'growth'.

This guy has done some great Youtube vids recently.