Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[chrisd]

Stats and lies? Looks like everyone will be hit. Leavers can claim that Germany & France wont let it happen so a deal is around the corner.. Remainers dont need to prove much

Source: https://www.statista.com/chart/1896...u-member-states-in-the-case-of-a-hard-brexit/

If this is accurate I'd suggest the EU needs a deal with us as much as the other way round, so they'd better start talking

 

[Taz]

Tory rebellion latest — Guto Bebb explicitly backs PM Corbyn to stop no deal — Boles, Grieve, Letwin agree to meet with Corbyn to discuss his plan — Ken Clarke agrees with the LibDems that he'd like to be PM — but ex-rebel Caroline Spelman backtracks and now backs Johnson

WTF


Guto Bebb backs Corbyn for PM…
“I certainly take the view that a short-term Jeremy Corbyn government is less damaging than the generational damage that would be caused by a no-deal Brexit.”

 

[Taz]

LibDumb leader :

I’ve offered to meet Jeremy Corbyn to discuss how we can work together on a deliverable plan to stop no-deal, including the option of uniting behind an MP who can command a majority in the House.
All the evidence is that Jeremy Corbyn does not have the support of enough Conservative MPs to command that majority, so I would urge him to be open to supporting alternative candidates for that role.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Stats and lies? Looks like everyone will be hit. Leavers can claim that Germany & France wont let it happen so a deal is around the corner.. Remainers dont need to prove much

Source: https://www.statista.com/chart/1896...u-member-states-in-the-case-of-a-hard-brexit/

That's no problem. We just have to tell the EU that we will make sure that all of the 500k+ jobs that will be lost in the UK are all going to be EU citizens. Problem solved. 👍

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

That's no problem. We just have to tell the EU that we will make sure that all of the 500k+ jobs that will be lost in the UK are all going to be EU citizens. Problem solved. 👍

Thing is - that's just not funny - and it would be illegal in it's discrimination.

Unfortunately if and when jobs are lost there will be quite a few who will be pointing fingers at EU citizens in work - and all who will have full right of residency - and asking why not them

 

[ColchesterFC]

Thing is - that's just not funny - and it would be illegal in it's discrimination..

Oh get off your high horse. I thought it was funny so who are you to decide if it's funny or not? It was hardly a serious suggestion. But if it had been what are the EU going to do about it. If we've left with no deal then they can't take us to the ECJ as they won't have any power over us.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Oh get off your high horse. I thought it was funny so who are you to decide if it's funny or not? It was hardly a serious suggestion. But if it had been what are the EU going to do about it. If we've left with no deal then they can't take us to the ECJ as they won't have any power over us.

I just hope none of those 1,000,000 people losing their jobs are not relatives or friends of yourself.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I just hope none of those 1,000,000 people losing their jobs are not relatives or friends of yourself.

You appear to have (I suspect deliberately) chosen to omit the word predicted or forecast from your post. It's no wonder leavers get so fed up with remainers like you who continually post predictions as though they are absolute facts. Every time a forecast is published people like you make out that it is certain or guaranteed when in fact you have no idea.

Also the double negative in your sentence means that you hope they are all my family and friends that lose their jobs. But to put your mind at rest, it's not a problem I don't have 1 million family and friends.

 

[Parsaregood]

You appear to have (I suspect deliberately) chosen to omit the word predicted or forecast from your post. It's no wonder leavers get so fed up with remainers like you who continually post predictions as though they are absolute facts. Every time a forecast is published people like you make out that it is certain or guaranteed when in fact you have no idea.

Also the double negative in your sentence means that you hope they are all my family and friends that lose their jobs. But to put your mind at rest, it's not a problem I don't have 1 million family and friends.

And how many of their predictions have proved to be correct, very few in fact we could probably say none. Project fear at its finest 😂

 

[Fade and Die]

The naivety, or just plain head-in-the-sand mentality of both Remoaners and ‘No to No-Deal’ exponents is truly incredible! The EU have stated time and time again that NOTHING FURTHER IS NEGOTIABLE. What does it take to get this fact Into their heads?

If there is no room for negotiation and no leeway, then what other option is there except no bloody deal??

Ironically Barnier’s deal gave Labour Remoaners virtually everything they wanted:

UK trapped in the Customs Union in perpetuity at the EU’s pleasure, unable to make our own trade deals and no say in its operation. A fudge on the Single Market allowing a continuation of Free Movement in all but name. Subject to the ECJ for a minimum of 8 years with extension periods that could be extended infinitely. What’s not for Labour to like?

The only reason Corbyn and Labour voted against the deal was because it was a TORY deal.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So whats new then

 

[Fade and Die]

So whats new then

An ex West Ham player won you your 1st trophy of the season. 😁

 

[Fade and Die]

Actually the more I think about it in an odd way we might even thank Mavis one day. If she and her team of EU sycophants had not been so utterly inept and negotiated something just a smidgen better — the Labour MP’s in strong leave constituencies and weaker/party loyalists in the ERG might have gone for it. Then we truly would be screwed permanently. Instead it was so unbelievably rancid a deal that it got defeated and has now opened up from almost out of nowhere, the possibility of a real Brexit not a con trick BRINO...Sure a realistic deal had we adopted a grown up stance from the very start would have been preferable, but at least we now have a shot at avoiding utter humiliation.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

An ex West Ham player won you your 1st trophy of the season. 😁

Excellent - so he has won more in 7 days at Liverpool than he did in 6 years at West Ham

 

[Fade and Die]

Excellent - so he has won more in 7 days at Liverpool than he did in 6 years at West Ham

😶☹️😭

 

[Taz]

About the only sensible tweet Ive seen all day

Boris Johnson

@BorisJohnson
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2h

The referendum result must be respected. We will leave the EU on 31st October.

 

[clubchamp98]

An ex West Ham player won you your 1st trophy of the season. 😁

Is he a leaver or remain that’s what we want to know?

 

[Pants]

I just hope none of those 1,000,000 people losing their jobs are not relatives or friends of yourself.

I'm confused (not for the first time).

So, if 1,000,000 people are going to lose their jobs, who is going to do them instead? Or are you saying that there are 1,000,000 jobs being done that don't need doing? At (say) £30,000 per job, that could save companies about £30 billion a year in wages

 

[Pants]

Yeh! Tongue in cheek but just illustrates how dumb headlines are.

 

[Foxholer]

The votes to update the leaving date in the European Withdrawal Act in the HoC's can be found on the HoC's website. The date is included in the 2018 Withdrawal act and has been updated twice via secondary legislation to the current date of 31st October.

https://commonsvotes.digiminster.com

As I suspected, you've completely corrupted the purpose of those 'updates'! They are actually updates to delay leaving - in the hope of avoiding a 'no deal' situation!

The House of Commons has NOT 'voted to leave on October 31'! Though, as I stated in my earlier challengr, the effect of current legislation (and negotiations) is that that's what will happen!

To suggest/call SILH a liar for not making the same, erroneous, 'quantum leap' to the same conclusion as you borders on, if not plainly 'is', obscene!