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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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pauljames87 said:
5 million in the scheme of the country wouldn’t be considered a lot but it’s enough

It’s not straw grabbing. It’s a fact that it was an underhand expierement by a company to test a system
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Your last sentence may be a fact, what is not a fact is that it influenced the result; there is actually no way to prove that hence it’s no more of a story than the Chancellor telling us that we’d all be 4 grand a year worse off. You don’t seem to be bringing that one back up...
 
Blue in Munich said:
Your last sentence may be a fact, what is not a fact is that it influenced the result; there is actually no way to prove that hence it’s no more of a story than the Chancellor telling us that we’d all be 4 grand a year worse off. You don’t seem to be bringing that one back up...
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Has that been proven to be incorrect yet? We are hardly going to be better off.
 
SocketRocket said:
He said it would happen immediately following the vote. That has just not happened.
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Many people have lost money

My boss lost 40k overnight. He was selling his house in uk and buying one in Ireland and the price of the pound dropped dramatically.
 
drdel said:
Yup because I think it will be a really bad move to remain in a group that most international financial analysts believe is on borrowed time. Kept afloat by debt.
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Hypothetically if another EU country were to go bust next week, a bit like Greece did a few years ago, how do you think that would change the mood of the UK as a whole?
 
ColchesterFC said:
Not forgetting the emergency budget which would be needed and the massive rise in unemployment in the event of a Leave vote. Neither of which happened either.
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Easy to have people in employment in the era of zero hour contracts ....
 
pauljames87 said:
Many people have lost money

My boss lost 40k overnight. He was selling his house in uk and buying one in Ireland and the price of the pound dropped dramatically.
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We are talking about Osborne's £4500 worse off per household immediately following the vote not your bosses house.
 
Old Skier said:
And the other 27 countries also had these benefits as well so why are many of them having failed economies.
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You do realise that the fact that the countries in the EU have different economies which is driven by their internal economic policies is forwarding the argument that there is minimal federalism going on in the EU don't you? Different countries can take advantage of good trading relationships with other countries without them all having the same economy.
 
Beezerk said:
Hypothetically if another EU country were to go bust next week, a bit like Greece did a few years ago, how do you think that would change the mood of the UK as a whole?
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Gammon would laugh, remainers would help out.
 
pauljames87 said:
Many people have lost money

My boss lost 40k overnight. He was selling his house in uk and buying one in Ireland and the price of the pound dropped dramatically.
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His own fault! Because he foolishly didn't hedge against the possibility of that happening! Or expected/bet a Remain win! BVtw. He didn't actually lose 40k either! The house in Ireland simply (would) cost him 40k more! He didn't need to buy it!
 
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pauljames87 said:
Easy to have people in employment in the era of zero hour contracts ....
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Zero hours contracts have been around for years, certainly from well before the referendum so are irrelevant to the argument. The announcement was that there would be a massive rise in unemployment if we voted to Leave the EU. That simply didn't happen but as it doesn't suit your argument you ignore it.

Also a prediction of a 2p rise in basic rate income tax , 3p on higher rate and £30 billion of tax rises and spending cuts. These things simply didn't happen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36534192

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...it-suisse-employment-job-hiring-a7136541.html
 
pauljames87 said:
Did you watch brexit an uncivil war? Showing how the leave campaign used a technique not used before with targeted online campaigning which was just an experiment by a company to see if it could actually work? Our system reduced to a company experimenting? They were happy for either side to use this tech to have 5 million or so votes normally not targeted during a campaign just to see if it would work

Give it a watch it’s a real eye opener
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Did you watch Downton Abbey also? 😉
 
Foxholer said:
His own fault! Because he foolishly didn't hedge against the possibility of that happening! Or expected/bet a Remain win! BVtw. He didn't actually lose 40k either! The house in Ireland simply (would) cost him 40k more! He didn't need to buy it!
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I said that to him. His choice but he kinda needs somewhere to live as he lives over there
 
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