Foxholer
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A chlorine wash would sort that out!
'Not credible' probably closer to being correct!
'Incredible for who' was my first thought!
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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'Incredible for who' was my first thought!
SocketRocket
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Dear MPs (All of you) We had a gut feeling you were all self serving wasters and you have proved us correct.
Foxholer
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Well, that has killed a 2nd referendum!
Kellfire
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Labour abstaining to push for a second referendum another day.
Kellfire
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For now. They’ll try again when they feel the time is best to achieve it.
Sweep
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To be fair, you don’t build a business empire without doing some good deals.
Sweep
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What??? So they adopt a second referendum as their main policy on Brexit and then don’t vote for it???
Kellfire
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They think it’ll have more chance of being passed if they wait. Fairly simple.
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Not quite, what they said at the time was:
“The U.K.’s opposition Labour Party will back a second referendum on Brexit to avoid Theresa May’s deal and a no-deal exit from the EU, leader Jeremy Corbyn told MPs.â€
As both of those are dead in the water there was no need to back a 2nd Ref.
I thought you’d be happy?
Foxholer
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Corbyn's tactical amendment (rightly imo) voted down!
Now comes the 'big' one - for a delay to extension until 30/6. Likely to be carried imo. Would be a good result for May - provided it's approved by EU27!
Now comes the 'big' one - for a delay to extension until 30/6. Likely to be carried imo. Would be a good result for May - provided it's approved by EU27!
TreeSeeker
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Labour were right, for them, to not vote for the 2nd referendum at this point. Mostly because there isn't anything to put to the vote (could you say as a viable parliament, we hate this deal, but do you guys want this anyway)
The big issue is the rejected withdrawal deal being brought back AGAIN, that is so completely unacceptable. Given the EU won't negoitiation whats the point in extending and just throwing more money away to the EU.
Edit : I'll now be hoping that the 27 don't agree a short extension, which I doubt they will, and that we get somewhere positive next week.
The big issue is the rejected withdrawal deal being brought back AGAIN, that is so completely unacceptable. Given the EU won't negoitiation whats the point in extending and just throwing more money away to the EU.
Edit : I'll now be hoping that the 27 don't agree a short extension, which I doubt they will, and that we get somewhere positive next week.
Foxholer
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So extension allowed/recommended by Commons. Still needs/Yet to be agreed by EU27.
Still unlikely, imo, for any meaningful change in deal May has negotiated - all depends on agreeing cutoff point of Backstop imo.
Simply delaying 'crisis point' imo and causing EU elections issue!
Still unlikely, imo, for any meaningful change in deal May has negotiated - all depends on agreeing cutoff point of Backstop imo.
Simply delaying 'crisis point' imo and causing EU elections issue!
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Edging closer and closer
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Regardless of deal or extension whatever, we are leaving.....eventually, just tell them we’re not taking part in any Euro elections and we’ll chat later.
Sweep
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Not really. Absolutely nothing to stop them from voting for it now and again when it comes up again. This option’s chances are not enhanced by being rejected so comprehensively.
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Don’t be so sure.. they can withdraw article 50 at any time. Let’s wait and see
Sweep
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I am happy.Not quite, what they said at the time was:
“The U.K.’s opposition Labour Party will back a second referendum on Brexit to avoid Theresa May’s deal and a no-deal exit from the EU, leader Jeremy Corbyn told MPs.â€
As both of those are dead in the water there was no need to back a 2nd Ref.
I thought you’d be happy?
2nd ref off the table and Labour looking like the clowns they are. What’s not to like?
Has there been much criticism of Labour not voting for it? I didn’t hear it because I put cheese in my ears 😀
Sweep
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When it became clear the negotiations weren’t getting anywhere we should have suggested we leave and talk later. That would have forced the EU to negotiate seriously, including a trade deal. Even if the EU didn’t talk we would be in a better or the same position as where we are now.
If you can check the record I said so at the time.
We should really still say that, but yesterday’s vote has put paid to that option.
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Only criticism came from the Remainers, most criticism is still being aimed at the PM.
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Who can?
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