Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[bladeplayer]

So I guess it’s two options now - No Deal or Extending Brexit

It appears that the majority in Parliament don’t want a no deal - EU prob don’t want a No Deal

But are the EU going to allow a short extension with what they have coming up ?

This all seems a complete mess , what’s the point in another General Election? The public are getting sick of them and does any really think it’s going to result in a different result ?

Or are they going to go for a second referendum?

Have to say well done to all concerned for creating the complete mess and embarrassment our country is in right now , and well done for looking to screw with peoples future

Due to EU elections i cant see an extension . Unless there is a very solid plan proved . As far as i know All 27 have to agree to extendion . Thatl b a hard sell

SO .. Its deal or no deal .. deal was rejected . No deal will b rejected tomoro i think .. what now ? ?

Parliment is so split if u get a deal to suit 1 side the others will reject it and vice versa ..

As it stands its crash out or revoke article 50 .
I think if second peoples vote is approved then the EU might wait r grant extension .

But then its remain or same problems with where it is now .

Stanleyyyy thats another fine mess u got us in (young crowd wont get that 1 )

Thoughts ?

 

[drdel]

Another mess. Are these MP's really acting in the best interest of the country and those that voted out. It still seems there are so many using this as political maneuvering and positioning. So where do we go now. Can't see no deal getting passed tomorrow and what stop gap if any will the EU allow. We're a laughing stock and in a mess. Why go for another referendum. The public spoke and the MP's screwed it up

This was always a 'zero sum game' for the EU. They could only gain by being difficult and so the negotiation was never conducted in good faith to seek a jointly beneficial outcome. The UK and PM were always going to be stonewalled. Add to that the fact that MPs were not aligned along party lines and the HoC was in a muddle. The public's vote has become an irritation.

 

[Old Skier]

So the only deal the EU are ok with has now been voted off the table. Tomorrow Parliament votes to take leaving with no deal off the table.
The logical conclusion then is that the deal that has been voted off the table (the only deal acceptable to the EU) is now the deal that is going through.
Yep, I think I've got it

 

[bladeplayer]

I fly out to Spain on the 4th of April .. I’d almost bet that we will still be in the eu

Is there a problem.if uk crash out . What happens then
Genuinely never thought of booked holidays around or over laping the deadline ?
Have u bn advised of what would happen ?

 

[Old Skier]

Is there a problem.if uk crash out . What happens then
Genuinely never thought of booked holidays around or over laping the deadline ?
Have u bn advised of what would happen ?

That's the problem, the fact that there is going to be no change whatever happens for a minimum of 3 months doesn't suit the agenda to be reported. That was agreed, deal or no deal.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Is there a problem.if uk crash out . What happens then
Genuinely never thought of booked holidays around or over laping the deadline ?
Have u bn advised of what would happen ?

Not much, they said a few months ago flights will be fine. Prob just long ques at passport control
My 20 month year old is gonna be happy lol

 

[Hacker Khan]

Is there a problem.if uk crash out . What happens then
Genuinely never thought of booked holidays around or over laping the deadline ?
Have u bn advised of what would happen ?

In practical terms as long as you were not planning on holidaying on the Irish border I don't think there would be a problem other than a longer than usual queue when landing if you are flying.

 

[bladeplayer]

Not much, they said a few months ago flights will be fine. Prob just long ques at passport control
My 20 month year old is gonna be happy lol

Stil that wouldnt be too bad . Bit chaotic as it new and possibly undr staffed
Enjoy d holiday

 

[Hacker Khan]

Not sure why the BBC are interviewing Chuckup

Cause they were interviewing Rees-Mogg at the same time so that's their version of balance.

 

[Old Skier]

Prob just long ques at passport control!!!!!!

Like now then

 

[GaryK]

The only way the I can see the EU granting an extension is if May commits to holding a 2nd referendum. I cannot see any other plausible reason that the EU would accept - they have clearly stated that there will be no movement from their side.

 

[bladeplayer]

In practical terms as long as you were not planning on holidaying on the Irish border I don't think there would be a problem other than a longer than usual queue when landing if you are flying.

I Thought there might be visa problems .. will freedom of movement be restricted immediatly etc .
Hopefuly wont b a problem for him any how

 

[bladeplayer]

That's the problem, the fact that there is going to be no change whatever happens for a minimum of 3 months doesn't suit the agenda to be reported. That was agreed, deal or no deal.

I was not aware of that . Thank u

 

[Tashyboy]

I fly out to Spain on the 4th of April .. I’d almost bet that we will still be in the eu

I would be more concerned what plane i was on. rather than actually leaving the country

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I would be more concerned what plane i was on. rather than actually leaving the country

No need to worry about those planes, they are banned from uk and eu airspace and my company don’t own any (the one I’m flying with)

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I Thought there might be visa problems .. will freedom of movement be restricted immediatly etc .
Hopefuly wont b a problem for him any how

Whatever happens, deal, no deal or no brexit there will either be an interim period whilst things get sorted or we will stay.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Yet again Caitlin Moran has nailed it

https://twitter.com/x/status/1105558133835997193

 

[Lord Tyrion]

The only way the I can see the EU granting an extension is if May commits to holding a 2nd referendum. I cannot see any other plausible reason that the EU would accept - they have clearly stated that there will be no movement from their side.

There could be a general election. Quicker to organise than a referendum apparently. As the govt is unable to get through its legislation this is very possible and was being suggested today by conservative politicians even.

 

[Hacker Khan]

The only way the I can see the EU granting an extension is if May commits to holding a 2nd referendum. I cannot see any other plausible reason that the EU would accept - they have clearly stated that there will be no movement from their side.

They could say that they will give a year or so extension gambling that the longer they give the more chance there would be of a second referendum if parliament is just permanently gridlocked.

 

[SocketRocket]

There could be a general election. Quicker to organise than a referendum apparently. As the govt is unable to get through its legislation this is very possible and was being suggested today by conservative politicians even.

Would it change anything though. I imagine the result would be a hung parliament with the Conservatives holding on, unless the Brexit party managed to grab enough seats to upset the balance. It would also not heal the rift in the country.