Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Whatever - Project Fear or Fear Project - the truth is not what you read or see it is what Leavers tell you will be...unsubstantiated though their beliefs may be. And beliefs is all that they are - the main belief being that if something is said enough times then it will come to pass.

Witness Marcus Fysh MP on Newsnight last night - utterly embarrassing, useless and stumbling performance, completely failing to answer in any substantive way whatsoever concerns put by Emily Maitless about fresh food imports (as the might affect the fresh sandwich industry etc) post a No Deal, and resorting to 'it's just nonsense being spouted to thwart the will of the British People' . Because it seems that that is all he had.

https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1024207148014870529

I think Mr Gregsbury from Dickens' Nicholas Nickleby would describe Fysh as a 'gammon' in that Fysh is a large, self-satisfied, middle aged man who professes an extreme patriotism in large part to disguise his essential selfishness and corruption.

Could be a description of a number of MPs.
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But aren't the projections by the Remain side only projections based on no negotiated settlement? In effect, they are giving a worst case scenario.

Can you see the EU wanting a worst case scenario when they are also desperate for a deal, e.g. fishing rights that they want no change whatsoever to the current access to UK waters?
 
Old Skier said:
Now now, your not suggesting Foxholer is attacking the man. He hates such attacks.
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No suggestion at all :), but I think it's clear that the response to my post was completely disproportionate in its tone and uncalled for.

Anyway, I'm off to enjoy the 'orse racing. Carry on :thup:
 
adam6177 said:
No, it's as I stated....go to the Sky news home page and read the headline link to the story. I was simply copying and pasting the headline.

I'll accept my apology via PM if you dont want to do it in public.... and next time dont be rude to me, I wasn't to you.
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Er.... I followed the link you quoted in post 417!

Btw. It just shows the difference between headlines and the 'real' thing!

If you want to find another link that matches with your/Doon's interpretation, then...... But it's balderdash!
 
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Old Skier said:
Now now, your not suggesting Foxholer is attacking the man. He hates such attacks.
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Nope! Not the man....Just the accuracy/reference! Have you actually checked the link? I suggest you do!

I trust you'll donate a(nother) tenner to H4H for the accusation!
 
Foxholer said:
No it's bleeding not!!!!!

Can't you read? Has Doon hijacked your id?

Here's the headline! '13-mile lorry park may last 'many years' after Brexit, impact reports reveal'

NOT 'Brexit Lorry park'!!!!! 'Lorry Park........Brexit'

Select the link and you will (at least should!) see the difference!

Jeez!

Completely as I stated!!!
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That did give me a good chuckle.:lol:

Whatever you want to call it I am getting very concerned about the Werthers Original shortage.....non in Tesco's today either.
That only leaves Sainsbury's now. Waitrose, with their four supermarkets are far too posh for Scotland or stocking Werthers.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
That did give me a good chuckle.:lol:

Whatever you want to call it I am getting very concerned about the Werthers Original shortage.....non in Tesco's today either.
That only leaves Sainsbury's now. Waitrose, with their four supermarkets are far too posh for Scotland or stocking Werthers.
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As a German company it's likely it considers itself as being highly efficient...
And, probably totally gutted at its own inability to gets its product on a shelf near you...
 
I'd be happy with a 13 mile queue given that the last time the French went on strike the queue was about 30 miles and we couldn't get out of our village - result! 👍
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Wishful thinking...…..more likely the shortage of buyers, floor staff and drivers [due to Brexit] of the British supermarket chains.
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One of my lads is a supply chain manager for a large multi-national food company...
And, if one of his products wasn't available he'd be kicking as many butts as it took to make sure they were...
And and, I am pretty sure his counterparts in other companies in a similar position would be doing the same...
 
MegaSteve said:
One of my lads is a supply chain manager for a large multi-national food company...
And, if one of his products wasn't available he'd be kicking as many butts as it took to make sure they were...
And and, I am pretty sure his counterparts in other companies in a similar position would be doing the same...
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...and if they were in a lorry stuck in a 15mile queue Calais-side of the channel - whose butt is he going to kick?
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
...and if they were in a lorry stuck in a 15mile queue Calais-side of the channel - whose butt is he going to kick?
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Doon was talking about a lack of product in his local stores right now. As far as I'm aware there are no queues either side of the channel right now so it's a screw up in the supply chain somewhere and nothing to do with Brexit.

And with the reported plan to just waive through EU goods after Brexit there are unlikely to be queues on the Calais side of the channel. The queues will all be on this side.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, or just plain thick - answers on a postcard.

There's just been a piece on the BBC Breakfast news in which a guy has said that Brexit will cause problems with the importation of animal foodstuffs from the EU, leading to food shortages in the supermarkets.

I find it hard to believe that barriers will be put in the way of imports that will lead to shortages. Yes, there may well be issues exporting into the EU. But issues importing? Really?

The UK may well resort to tariffs on imports of non-essential items from the EU, e.g. cars, but I just can't believe the level of rubbish being put out on a daily basis that is purely Project Fear. "Oh, lets stop feedstuffs coming into the UK and cause problems for our own people!" Unbelievable!

Prepare yourself for another vote, once all the Project Fear has been drip fed(avalanched) to the public.
 
Hobbit said:
Maybe I'm missing something, or just plain thick - answers on a postcard.

There's just been a piece on the BBC Breakfast news in which a guy has said that Brexit will cause problems with the importation of animal foodstuffs from the EU, leading to food shortages in the supermarkets.

I find it hard to believe that barriers will be put in the way of imports that will lead to shortages. Yes, there may well be issues exporting into the EU. But issues importing? Really?

The UK may well resort to tariffs on imports of non-essential items from the EU, e.g. cars, but I just can't believe the level of rubbish being put out on a daily basis that is purely Project Fear. "Oh, lets stop feedstuffs coming into the UK and cause problems for our own people!" Unbelievable!

Prepare yourself for another vote, once all the Project Fear has been drip fed(avalanched) to the public.
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I am beginning to agree with DfT in that the Beeb have been reduced to being pedlars of 'fake news'...
 
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