Bounce?

bobmac said:
I've spent over 40 years playing golf and have never known what loft or bounce or grind any of my wedges had.
Which just proves to me you don't need to know all that stuff to have a decent short game.
People spend too much time worrying about the stuff that doesnt really make much difference and not not enough time practicing which makes a huge difference.

That is only my opinion of course.
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Kowledge is power. Im not saying it will drastically change someone's short game but it certainly makes it easier. If i was a pro i would be recommending to people just starting out to stay clear of low bounce clubs during the winter or on wet soggy courses. It is a recipe for disaster. I know this from trials and test.

I appreciate that nothing can replace proper technique and copious practice but im surprised you haven't done your own research just so you can speak with authority on the matter of bounce if one of your pupils was intrested and wanted to pick your brain.
 
but im surprised you haven't done your own research just so you can speak with authority on the matter of bounce if one of your pupils was intrested and wanted to pick your brain.
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I dont understand what you mean
 
I have 2 sets of wedges with high bounce for the winter (and last "summer") and a set of low bounce wedges for when the course is baked hard. I keep a low bounce wedge in the bag in the winter for getting out of compacted bunkers.
 
bobmac said:
I dont understand what you mean
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You claim not to know what bounce is on your sw. How can you speak to someone who wants to discuss the various bounce options available to them if you havnt tried them for yourself. You could rile off the obvious low bounce for links courses and high for wet soggy parkland but you cant really talk with any authority if you havnt looked into it yourself.
 
garyinderry said:
You claim not to know what bounce is on your sw. How can you speak to someone who wants to discuss the various bounce options available to them if you havnt tried them for yourself. You could rile off the obvious low bounce for links courses and high for wet soggy parkland but you cant really talk with any authority if you havnt looked into it yourself.
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Quite a few assumtions there.....
I dont 'claim not to know', I dont know.
Do you know how many wedges I have tried?
How do you know what I have looked into?



The OP asked "what bounce you have on your wedges"
I replied "I dont know".
I went on to say in my opinion if people spent more time practicing and less time worrying about what loft and bounce and grind they had on their wedges, they might become better wedge players. And finally, I hinted the difference the bounce actually makes may not be as significant as the munufacturers claim.
Just my opinion of course
 
if you are going to hint at things then people must make assumptions.

1)you dont know the bounce of you SW. assumption correct
2)no but id assume ;) you have tried a quite few being a golf pro.
3)" I've spent over 40 years playing golf and have never known what loft or bounce or grind any of my wedges had." i dont have to assume anything here. its in black and white.


i didnt say that bounce will make people better wedge players. it just might help. i dont think manufacturers make enough noise about bounce. ill give you grinds. that doesnt intrest me in the slightest.
 
its a debate bob ;) im off to work now. :( i just feel very strongly on the topic. i have a little more to add later. i just want people to be informed as much as possible unlike myself when i first bought a gap wedge. have a nice day :)
 
bobmac said:
I'm not going to argue, it's still Christmas
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Understandable Bob. I believe there is no substitute for technique and I try and keep that in mind but sometimes tech is needed to make the most of it.

When it comes to bounce however using it as a crutch might work for some but if you have the skills then you don't need them. If I fat a shot or thin a shot I don't blame the bounce, I blame my poor swing and I head straight for the practice area after the round.
 
bobmac said:
You want to be in my shoes when I see someone with a poor technique who cant get out of a bunker because he has the "wrong bounce for this type of sand".
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Ive used the "wrong" bounce recently out of a rock hard bunker. Just a little technique change that I learnt in a lesson from a professional meant I could still get the loft I needed. OK it was the SECOND attempt in the same bunker but the first time I put a poor swing on it :o
 
bobmac said:
You want to be in my shoes when I see someone with a poor technique who cant get out of a bunker because he has the "wrong bounce for this type of sand".
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careful - it's still Christmas :whistle:

Garry probably knows the bounce on the sole of his PW and 6 iron (9 and 5 degrees) but then again if this is vital to a players ability it's surprising that many manufactures don't list this information for their irons - and even more surprising that those who are demanding to have the loft printed on the club haven't added 'bounce' to their list of demands!

I generally agree with you in that 99.999% of golfers aren't Hogan, and most of those need to understand how to use their clubs more than the minutiae of what the clubs are! :confused:

But then again I also believe that most golfers would benefit from not trying to hit their 7 iron 150 yds (as an example) - so clearly I'm mad.......
 
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I think getting the right bounce for the type of shots you play has some merit, although not a massive amount. Only my opinion though.

I don't see any merit in buying a high bounce club just so that you don't move the divot further than the ball if the course is soft and you hit the ground 2" behind the ball.

When I bought my latest wedges I looked at both bounce variations at address, both with a normal position and the club opened way up, and I honestly couldn't tell the difference. I didn't hit any shots though.
 
duncan mackie said:
careful - it's still Christmas :whistle:

Garry probably knows the bounce on the sole of his PW and 6 iron (9 and 5 degrees) but then again if this is vital to a players ability it's surprising that many manufactures don't list this information for their irons - and even more surprising that those who are demanding to have the loft printed on the club haven't added 'bounce' to their list of demands!

I generally agree with you in that 99.999% of golfers aren't Hogan, and most of those need to understand how to use their clubs more than the minutiae of what the clubs are! :confused:

But then again I also believe that most golfers would benefit from not trying to hit their 7 iron 150 yds (as an example) - so clearly I'm mad.......
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tell us your experiances with low and high bounce wedges.
 
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I think getting the right bounce for the type of shots you play has some merit, although not a massive amount. Only my opinion though.

I don't see any merit in buying a high bounce club just so that you don't move the divot further than the ball if the course is soft and you hit the ground 2" behind the ball.

When I bought my latest wedges I looked at both bounce variations at address, both with a normal position and the club opened way up, and I honestly couldn't tell the difference. I didn't hit any shots though.
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you wont notice too much at address. the proof of the pudding is when you hit the shot.

btw folks. im not advocating high, low or medium. what i am saying and i am backed up by david pelz in a recent GM publication is that a golfers bag should have a mixture of bounce to deal with everything a course can throw at you.
 
duncan - most new wedges will have the bounce printed on them. failing that it may simply say standard, low or high. see MD wedges for example.
 
I'm not trying to throw fuel on a potential 'discussion' but I'm genuinely interested as I've already stated I dont know nor have ever known the bounce, nor did I think it was relevant to me......here's why I think that way;
when you strike the ball you hit the ball first THEN turf, correct?
plus the ball is on the face for a nano second (or thereabouts), correct?

in that case what does it matter how the bounce is reacting to the turf after you've hit the shot?
 
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