Boris the PM - a new beginning

[Deleted member 16999]

Its every opportunity taken to criticise the Conservatives, Boris, Parliament etc .... maybe look closer to home at their own Leader, Party and Parliament- hardly a beacon for how politics should be run ?

Come on Chris, we may be on the opposite side with political belief, but I’ve always found you honest, your post above applies equally to both sides.

Look back at any political thread on here and you’ll see extreme and balanced posts from all sides.

We’re currently in the midst of a worldwide crisis and our Government is tory, what on earth has it to do with any other party? Any other party can’t have an input without the Government inviting them in.

I don’t believe for one minute that if we had a Labour Government and they had done 100% what this Government has done they’d be immune from any criticism or personal attacks, we’ve even had childish digs at Starmer for no reason whatsoever today.

 

[Foxholer]

well thats what happens when you tell lie after lie, i would tend to take every thing with a pinch of salt.

you might believe everything he says and does... i don't

True enough!

Though I have no doubt that his illness was genuine! Too many other folk involved to be anything but!

 

[Hobbit]

Come on Chris, we may be on the opposite side with political belief, but I’ve always found you honest, your post above applies equally to both sides.

Look back at any political thread on here and you’ll see extreme and balanced posts from all sides.

We’re currently in the midst of a worldwide crisis and our Government is tory, what on earth has it to do with any other party? Any other party can’t have an input without the Government inviting them in.

I don’t believe for one minute that if we had a Labour Government and they had done 100% what this Government has done they’d be immune from any criticism or personal attacks, we’ve even had childish digs at Starmer for no reason whatsoever today.

I think Starmer has been a breath of fresh air. I've watched a couple of PMQ's, and a few interviews. I think the under the current circumstances he's absolutely struck the right balance. There's been the odd thing he's said that I didn't agree with but it would be splitting hairs to be fair. Well impressed.

 

[Hacker Khan]

True enough!

Though I have no doubt that his illness was genuine! Too many other folk involved to be anything but!

I also think he was genuinely very ill. We're just seeing the consequences of electing a popularist PM who has always known to be a bit light on detail and has been known to bend the truth in the past for personal and political gain.

Those that bought into his popularist schtick will still buy in, those that did not will always be questioning. So any genuine good work he does will be will questioned by many that do not trust him and any signs of vague competence will be lauded by his supporters. As is always the way, a leaders past behaviors and the type of person we elect to lead our country will have consequences further down the line.

 

[User20204]

Though I have no doubt that his illness was genuine! Too many other folk involved to be anything but!

Has anyone suggested his illness wasn't genuine ? No didn't think so, but the political stunt, whoever's idea it was, to say he near died and then name his son after the doctors who "saved" him is all bit to sickening for my liking.

Woah betide our glorious leader rises from his death bed like Lazarus to save us all, and some of you lot actually believe it

 

[Foxholer]

Agreed. Gives me hope we might eventually have a viable opposition again.

And, imho, that's as important to democracy as having a competent government! As is having a free and competent Press!

 

[User20204]

As is having a free and competent Press!

Oh well, it was all going so well to

 

[MegaSteve]

Agreed. Gives me hope we might eventually have a viable opposition again.

Unsurprisingly I am hoping for a bit more... A socialist 'of the people' government would be, for me, happy days ?✌...

 

[Foxholer]

Has anyone suggested his illness wasn't genuine ? No didn't think so, but the political stunt, whoever's idea it was, to say he near died and then name his son after the doctors who "saved" him is all bit to sickening for my liking.

Woah betide our glorious leader rises from his death bed like Lazarus to save us all, and some of you lot actually believe it

Oh well, it was all going so well to

Your cynicism appears to 'know no bounds'!

 

[SocketRocket]

Come on Chris, we may be on the opposite side with political belief, but I’ve always found you honest, your post above applies equally to both sides.

Look back at any political thread on here and you’ll see extreme and balanced posts from all sides.

We’re currently in the midst of a worldwide crisis and our Government is tory, what on earth has it to do with any other party? Any other party can’t have an input without the Government inviting them in.

I don’t believe for one minute that if we had a Labour Government and they had done 100% what this Government has done they’d be immune from any criticism or personal attacks, we’ve even had childish digs at Starmer for no reason whatsoever today.

What childish digs have been made against Starmer, I assume you are not meaning on this forum?

 

[chrisd]

Come on Chris, we may be on the opposite side with political belief, but I’ve always found you honest, your post above applies equally to both sides.

Look back at any political thread on here and you’ll see extreme and balanced posts from all sides.

We’re currently in the midst of a worldwide crisis and our Government is tory, what on earth has it to do with any other party? Any other party can’t have an input without the Government inviting them in.

I don’t believe for one minute that if we had a Labour Government and they had done 100% what this Government has done they’d be immune from any criticism or personal attacks, we’ve even had childish digs at Starmer for no reason whatsoever today.

Paul, I'm not saying that any of this pandemic and its decision making is down to any other party, I'm simply saying that whatever the thread, whatever the discussion there are one or two on here who time after time call out the Conservatives, Boris and Parliament, but their own Government is absolute crap it would just be refreshing if they acknowledged that some times

 

[User20204]

Your cynicism appears to 'know no bounds'!

As I said earlier, had the doctors been called Abdul or Mohammed do you think he'd have named his son after them ? Genuine question, do you ?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

He was barely credible and then he started waffling about plans for his succession.
Those plans are already in place permanently as with Pope, Queenie, St Johnstone FC manager etc., load of the usual self serving jingoistic nonsense.

 

[harpo_72]

Paul, I'm not saying that any of this pandemic and its decision making is down to any other party, I'm simply saying that whatever the thread, whatever the discussion there are one or two on here who time after time call out the Conservatives, Boris and Parliament, but their own Government is absolute crap it would just be refreshing if they acknowledged that some times

There is no other government .. the Tories, and Boris are in the driving seat,they make the decisions- what the others would do is purely hypothetical. The people and the press have every right to judge and comment on Boris and the government to criticise any of the other parties based on pure speculation are the actions of someone with a narrow mind or too much imagination.

 

[SocketRocket]

So apparently he nearly died, yet wasn't put on a ventilator, talk about propaganda spin at the highest level.

Remember folks, question everything.

Has anyone suggested his illness wasn't genuine ? No didn't think so, but the political stunt, whoever's idea it was, to say he near died and then name his son after the doctors who "saved" him is all bit to sickening for my liking.

Woah betide our glorious leader rises from his death bed like Lazarus to save us all, and some of you lot actually believe it

Unbelievable.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Unsurprisingly I am hoping for a bit more... A socialist 'of the people' government would be, for me, happy days ?✌...

It would also be a first for this country.

At least for the last 70 years anyway.

 

[User20204]

Unbelievable.

My thoughts exactly but apparently some believe it all.

 

[SocketRocket]

My thoughts exactly but apparently some believe it all.

Not what you've posted, its contradictory.

 

[MegaSteve]

It would also be a first for this country.

At least for the last 70 years anyway.

About time we gained some first hand experience then...

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Paul, I'm not saying that any of this pandemic and its decision making is down to any other party, I'm simply saying that whatever the thread, whatever the discussion there are one or two on here who time after time call out the Conservatives, Boris and Parliament, but their own Government is absolute crap it would just be refreshing if they acknowledged that some times

And I agree, just as some on the right take every opportunity time after time call out the Labour Party, the Leader and anyone else who isn’t tory.

Calling out the opposition doesn’t always mean the Party they support is better.

edit: I’ll tell what’s worse Chris, those who make pathetic political comments putting others down on the random irritations thread without ever actually having the guts to debate their position on actual threads. (Not aimed at you personally in anyway)