Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I have agreed with Hesletine for 40 years:lol:......very able politician sidelined by the Tory party.
Waste of as good man.
Boris not running for PM
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I have agreed with Hesletine for 40 years:lol:......very able politician sidelined by the Tory party.
Waste of as good man.
Oh no, I'm even agreeing with Doon. A very able politician, and fought Geoffrey Howe in Thatcher's cabinet over Howe's view that Liverpool should be cut adrift. A very fair politician, and too centred for the Thatcher era.
Definitely a good man.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I'm backing Gove now as I'm being told by the Sun and Times I like his policies
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Seems to me that Gove went along with BoJo through the campaign - and went along with talk of BoJo being next PM - in full expectation that Leave wouldn't win and so Cameron would be in place until 2020. And so all BoJo's nonsense and ill-disciplined behaviour during the campaign wouldn't matter.
But when Leave did win Gove just thought no way could BoJo by PM. And I do believe what he says about not wanting to be PM - for whatever reasons - but when it came to it - as he said - he knew what he wanted to do - and he knew what the right thing to do was. And that meant standing for leader and to be PM - he knew that it was the right thing for him to do. Whether he wins or not Gove just could't let BoJo get anointed by the Tories. As much as I'd have liked to see BoJo humiliated by the Tory Party in not getting through to the last two - the risk of him getting to the last two and becoming leader means that what has happened is overall preferable to me.
And I get that - knowing the difference between what I want to do - and what is the right thing to do - it's how I might try and live my life and it is not easy. So did BoJo connive and politically assassinate BoJo? No - I don't think so - he just did the right thing.
(and as far as applauding Heseltine - OMG - me too - eeek!!)
But when Leave did win Gove just thought no way could BoJo by PM. And I do believe what he says about not wanting to be PM - for whatever reasons - but when it came to it - as he said - he knew what he wanted to do - and he knew what the right thing to do was. And that meant standing for leader and to be PM - he knew that it was the right thing for him to do. Whether he wins or not Gove just could't let BoJo get anointed by the Tories. As much as I'd have liked to see BoJo humiliated by the Tory Party in not getting through to the last two - the risk of him getting to the last two and becoming leader means that what has happened is overall preferable to me.
And I get that - knowing the difference between what I want to do - and what is the right thing to do - it's how I might try and live my life and it is not easy. So did BoJo connive and politically assassinate BoJo? No - I don't think so - he just did the right thing.
(and as far as applauding Heseltine - OMG - me too - eeek!!)
Foxholer
Blackballed
If you thought there was a certain (Shakespeare-ian) Scottish style to Gove's 'assassination' of Bojo, perhaps his city of birth could be a clue!
Surely not another Scottish born UK PM!
I'm also a great admirer of Heseltine!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Only way Scots can get to be PM as no longer can the PM be an MP of a Scottish constituency
