Tashyboy
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Fylde, that kind of fact based arguement supported by nouns has no place on this forum. 😁👍 well putt.
bernhard langer still anchoring?
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Fylde, that kind of fact based arguement supported by nouns has no place on this forum. 😁👍 well putt.
His top hand doesn't seem to move much, if at all, during his putting stroke, so it is in effect a fixed pivot point for a pendulum stroke. I agree that a limit on putter length would have stopped this sort of thing altogether.
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A mate of mine still uses the long putter and anchors his top hand on the practice stroke. BUT his trigger now to take the putter back on the stroke proper is a small, but noticeable, push away from his chest with the anchored hand.
I can barely see that from 20 feet away, but I know he does it. And yet some of you are calling one of the most consistent golfers Europe has ever produced, and an honourable man into the bargain, a cheat because of what you think you can or can't see on TV? Have a word with yourselves.
I'm quite sure he's been watched at very close quarters by rules officials and playing partners since January. If they're satisfied then give the man a break.
I can barely see that from 20 feet away, but I know he does it. And yet some of you are calling one of the most consistent golfers Europe has ever produced, and an honourable man into the bargain, a cheat because of what you think you can or can't see on TV? Have a word with yourselves.
I'm quite sure he's been watched at very close quarters by rules officials and playing partners since January. If they're satisfied then give the man a break.
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Agreed that he is not breaking any rules, but his putting style seems contrary to what was intended by the anchoring ban. At least it has finished the awful belly putting method, but not the broomhandle!
Norrin Radd
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you lot can tell that his hand isnt touching his chest but is still touching his clothing .
sorry but the man is cheating .
sorry but the man is cheating .
People are always going to find their own way of getting round rule changes like this. The bottom line is that anchoring has been banned, and if Langer is no longer anchoring he is playing within the rules.
The mate I refer to says the change has made a significant difference to his confidence on the greens, but he just doesn't like a short putter. That's no different to me not liking to putt with a conventional putting grip which is why I use a claw grip. It's ways and means, but with no rule breaking.
The mate I refer to says the change has made a significant difference to his confidence on the greens, but he just doesn't like a short putter. That's no different to me not liking to putt with a conventional putting grip which is why I use a claw grip. It's ways and means, but with no rule breaking.
Without looking at the rule I don't know if touching clothing is banned, but I suspect not. It's anchoring to the body which was outlawed.
As I say, if rules officials, playing partners and their caddies have no issue with it, then referring to him here as a cheat is a bit rich in my opinion. Sorry.
Fyldewhite
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Sorry, but he isn't.....and you have just explained why. :thup:
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Officials have looked at his grip and are satisfied it's ok, why do you think he is cheating?
TheJezster
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Yea in a game based on self governance and integrity, let's go right out and without questioning just call one of the most honest players we've seen in the last x number years an outright cheat! Have a word with yourself man, it's embarrassing! It might 'look' suspect but it's been looked into and he's been questioned and the facts are it's not. Case closed.
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Not sure why there is a discussion because he is being watched by officials and not one of them have pulled him up. Everytime he puts his high hand moves which shows he isn't anchoring
Norrin Radd
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the man is taking the piddle , he says he is just moving his hand away but there is no gap that is able to be seen ,and there isnt anyone in authority gonna gall him out as they dont want to be seen as the bad man .
emperors new clothes people.
emperors new clothes people.
So you're not so much questioning his breaking of the rules but his integrity?
I dont know which is worse.
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You can tell this from TV pictures whereas officials up close can't?
sawtooth
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Common sense needed, do you really think Langer would risk DQ by doing something illegal?
The whole world is watching and scrutinising his putting action and as already been said, not one official has picked him up on it.
The whole world is watching and scrutinising his putting action and as already been said, not one official has picked him up on it.
On Masters Breakfast they've discussed this very point and the consensus is that his putting style is similar to how it was before, but different enough to be legal. They are in no doubt he is putting within the rules. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me and it should really be good enough for all the armchair experts.
The view was that the likes of Adam Scott simply couldn't find a way of using the long putter without anchoring whilst Langer has, and all agree it's legal. End of.
The view was that the likes of Adam Scott simply couldn't find a way of using the long putter without anchoring whilst Langer has, and all agree it's legal. End of.
I am not questioning Langer's integrity, just that he is allowed to putt this way at all within the rules. To me his new method looks exactly the same as what he was doing before, albeit with a tiny gap between his top hand and his sternum.
Sorry, but that is questioning his integrity. I really can't view it any other way. You clearly don't believe him when he says he's not anchoring.
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I am not questioning Langer's integrity, just that he is allowed to putt this way at all within the rules. To me his new method looks exactly the same as what he was doing before, albeit with a tiny gap between his top hand and his sternum.
How it "looks" is irrelevant
He isn't anchoring the putter - it can't be any simpler than that
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Conspiracy theory, people!
The PGA Champions Tour and the Masters have colluded and told the Rules Officials from the USGA, R&A, PGA Tour, European Tour (they all provide referees etc; for the event) to ignore a blatant breach of a well publicised Rule.
Really??????
Perhaps you need to sit closer to your TV as I can see the left-hand come away from the chest prior to making the stroke.
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