Tommo, your not compairing like for like. Feel will be different between R7's and AP1's that's not down to forged or cast.
Tell me how it's not down to the forge or cast head. How is it not like for like. I hit my r7 4 iron, I hit my AP2 4 iron the AP2 feels...not sounds.... but feels much better. What other way can I compare it. I dont care what it's down to....It's just my opinion. If vokey tells you you wont know, then dont get them. If westwood plays pings...he gets wads of money for it and as I said they're every bit as good I'm sure. I tried screwbacks pings at castle stuart, again a different feel. You dont need to be the best player in the world to spot this and some of you need to stop reading too much crap from people who are trying to sell a product....
The only way you can tell "like for like", is if you had a forged r7 against a cast r7, change the club model and of course the feel will be different. That's not down to the material it's manufactured from, it's down to club design.
Are we not talking about steel and forged, two different materials, so it's real stupid saying I'm not comparing like for like....they are different, that is the subject of this thread. Why cant it be down to the material even if you change model......how do you know this.
It could be down to the material, but you will never know because you have changed club model.