belly putters again!!

Imurg said:
Having to do that shows a flaw in your putting, be it mental or otherwise.
All clubs should have to be held in one or 2 hands only - if you can't do that then practice.
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Totally agree Imurg. They should never have been allowed, they are wrong for the game and they should be outlawed in my view.

Even if an attack of the yips drove me to the point of giving up the game, I still wouldn't use one as a last resort. Just not right in my opinion. I am a traditionalist...
 
Snelly said:
Totally agree Imurg. They should never have been allowed, they are wrong for the game and they should be outlawed in my view.

Even if an attack of the yips drove me to the point of giving up the game, I still wouldn't use one as a last resort. Just not right in my opinion. I am a traditionalist...
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Excellent. As a traditionalist then you detest hybrids. Hybrids are for players that can't hit a 3 or 4 iron so give up and take the easy option.

Or play anything other than blades.

Brilliant.

Good lad.
 
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thecraw said:
What an absolute load of tosh! Ban them why??? Show me where in the rules of golf it says they are illegal?


Sit down shut up and live with it. These bad boys are here to stay. The end of thread.
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Charming! I would not use one for precisely the same rationale that prevents me from referring to golf clubs as "bad boys". :-)

I would feel absolutely ridiculous if someone saw me with either a belly putter or heard me say my driver was a "bad boy!!!!"


Still, takes all sorts and live and let live etc.. Isn't that right my main homey?
 
AuburnWarrior said:
Excellent. As a traditionalist then you detest hybrids. Hybrids are for players that can't a 3 or 4 iron so give up and take the easy option.

Or play anything other than blades.

Brilliant.

Good lad.
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AW, the distance that you miss the point by is a consistent source of amusement to me. Many thanks.
 
Only know one player that uses one at my club. He putts well with it and good luck to him. It seemed to be the old boys that went to it, the likes of Sam Torrance and Carl Mason, but now it seems to be catching on with the younger players. Personally would never use one.
 
Why wouldn't you use one?

I see your happy to use a 460cc driver. You also carry a hybrid, these cheating clubs that help players who struggle with long irons.

People who putt well with belly and broom putters do do because they have practiced with them, they have fine tuned their method and stroke with them not because they magically make you a better putter.
 
thecraw said:
Why wouldn't you use one?

I see your happy to use a 460cc driver. You also carry a hybrid, these cheating clubs that help players who struggle with long irons.

People who putt well with belly and broom putters do do because they have practiced with them, they have fine tuned their method and stroke with them not because they magically make you a better putter.
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Here endeth this 'ere thread!!

Belly/broom handle putters are legal, the users of said articles are not 'cheats' as some on here would lead you to believe and they're here to stay!!

You don't want to use one - fine - that's your right but there's plenty who do.

The manufacture of ALL golf equipment is about performance improvement, be it a Driver, hydrid, iron or putter. The belly/broom handled putter is merely a performance improver - in much the same way the 460cc Driver is or the hybrid or the cavity backed iron.

Maybe the R&A should ban anything other than the persimmon wood, the bladed iron and the bladed putter (with 34" shaft). How many of you would give this game up then?? Loads. :mad:
 
Just remembered have to polish my *hickory shafts* for this weekend. Oh and the rut iron and nibblet could do with a new leather wrap grip on.
 
Yes it is true that all golf kit is designed to improve your golf and that is fine.

The blindingly obvious and crucial difference with the long shafted putters is that they are not just connected to the body by gripping in the hands. This is not right in my view.

I know they are legal, have no problem if others want to use them and would not castigate anyone for doing so. However, I would not play with one myself and look forward to the day the R&A revisit this and change their legal status.
 
Snelly said:
Yes it is true that all golf kit is designed to improve your golf and that is fine.

The blindingly obvious and crucial difference with the long shafted putters is that they are not just connected to the body by gripping in the hands. This is not right in my view.

I know they are legal, have no problem if others want to use them and would not castigate anyone for doing so. However, I would not play with one myself and look forward to the day the R&A revisit this and change their legal status.
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What if the protagonist doesn't anchor the long putter to the body??

Snr Cabrera, perchance??

Still an abomination in your eyes??
 
Think this has gone on long enough. They are legal end of. No the R&A will not ban them now, as a major has been won with one. If they did it would look as though he had cheated and that will not happen. They are here to stay.
 
Snelly said:
Yes it is true that all golf kit is designed to improve your golf and that is fine.

The blindingly obvious and crucial difference with the long shafted putters is that they are not just connected to the body by gripping in the hands. This is not right in my view.

I know they are legal, have no problem if others want to use them and would not castigate anyone for doing so. However, I would not play with one myself and look forward to the day the R&A revisit this and change their legal status.
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Sadly for you that day will NEVER come. The boat has sailed long ago for any ruling body to even try and ban then now. Your now getting juniors being brought up and being taught with the belly putter. I believe in years to come the belly will be more popular than the short stick. Just look at Furyk, big leftie, Els, even Westwood has dabbled.
 
Mattyboy said:
I have a problem with chippers as I fail to see what a chipper can do that one of 5 odd clubs that players generally carry can do.

Cant say I have a problem with long putters.
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but what if people feel more comfortable with it? it's a legal golf club as is a long putter - you can't have it both ways.
 
Got no problem with other people using them, I always felt that the biggest drawback of long putters was the lack of distance control. If you have less control of the distance the ball will travel, then direction becomes more guesswork than judgement. Short, straight putts are where the long putter has an advantage, but anything that requires line and speed control is better with a more conventional putter design in my opinion.
 
As they're legal I have no issue with anyone using one. My issue is that the method of using one is - and I hate using this phrase - against the Spirit of the Game. I know we all have 460 cc drivers and cavity back clubs and hybrids etc etc but, fundamentally, you would use a 21 degree hybrid in a broadly similar fashion to a 3 iron ie you'd hold it two hands, take a stance and swing the club. The only things touching the club are the hands. And that's where the difference is. Using a belly or broom handle putter (unless you're a Cabrera and hold the long putter conventially) you have to anchor the club to another part of the body. This has to improve control of the club. Anchor anything to 3 points and it will be steadier than if you anchor to 2 points.
No other club is used in this manner.
You are not allowed to. for example, place a ruler along your wrist to help prevent the wrist breaking down. Why? Because you're anchoring by another point, preventing the natural movement of the arms/wrists. Surely, anchoring a Belly putter or Broomhandle to either Belly or chin is much the same thing?

As has been said above, I think it's gone too far, they will have serious trouble banning them outright. I believe they shouldn't have been allowed in the first place and that's my opinion but I fully respect anyone who agrees with these putters or uses them.
But it's not right. And I'll stand by my phrase from earlier on the thread.
If you can't putt with a short putter then practice - it's all between your ears.
 
So when Langer used the short stick with two hands plus having it "anchored" to his left wrist/forearm was this ok since it was a short shaft?
 
Any reason why everyone is getting so worked up about a type of putter? Belly-putters at dawn?

In any sport players will go to the limit of the rules in order to gain an advantage, there are many things that could happen within golf that arent 'fair play' or 'spirit of the game', and everyone has the right to adopt it if its legal or simply not to adopt it

What I would say is that at some point, if the 'breakthrough' is significant enough, you either embrace it to help you compete or you shun it and place yourself at a disadvantage.

Ps: If they ban the modern driver I am screwed
 
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