BBC News.

[IanM]

mmm - another rap on the knuckles for the BBC this week then for a blatant lie....

Hogan in here too eh? Nice

 

[Doon frae Troon]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15688340.UK_watchdog_backs_down_in_tax_row_with_SNP/

Seems BBC is not the only British organisation getting it's knickers in a twist.

 

[IanM]

BBC Regional Programming:

Something good happens in Wales = hurrah for the Welsh Labour Government

Something bad happens in Wales = those nasty blooming Tories

Every night you'll see some version of the "Goodness Gracious Me" Sketch where "Indian" is replaced by "Welsh!" Barry John invented the light bulb you know!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

BBC Regional Programming:

Something good happens in Wales = hurrah for the Welsh Labour Government

Something bad happens in Wales = those nasty blooming Tories

Every night you'll see some version of the "Goodness Gracious Me" Sketch where "Indian" is replaced by "Welsh!" Barry John invented the light bulb you know!

When something good happens in Scotland the BBC can usually be counted on to spin it into an SNP BAAAAD story [despite Brexit] followed by the Labour and Tory parties lying through their teeth to try and claim credit.

When something bad happens the Labour and Tory parties go straight into SNP BAAAAAAD mode despite, in many cases, either voting for it at Holyrood or having it in past manifestos.
The single Scottish Police Service and the VAT bill being a prime example of that.

 

[IanM]

It does seem blatant. Hopefully a future Tory Govt will kill the BBC off.......

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It does seem blatant. Hopefully a future Tory Govt will kill the BBC off.......

The BBC employs a great deal amount of people all over the world , it also provides a service for people all over the world - i for one was grateful for the BBC world Service at times - there are millions upon millions that rely on the BBC for both their television and their radio and have no wish to pay the vast fortunes to watch Sky or have to deal with adverts to watch ITV

Now it’s clear you have a clear hatred of the BBC ( not sure why when it’s just a media company ) but it provides a very good service for a damn sight more - is it perfect , nope but it’s better and cheaper than any other media outlet and I think your hopes will be dashed. If it’s that offending the answer is simple - don’t watch it or read the website or listen to the radio

 

[Deleted member 18588]

The BBC employs a great deal amount of people all over the world , it also provides a service for people all over the world - i for one was grateful for the BBC world Service at times - there are millions upon millions that rely on the BBC for both their television and their radio and have no wish to pay the vast fortunes to watch Sky or have to deal with adverts to watch ITV

Now it’s clear you have a clear hatred of the BBC ( not sure why when it’s just a media company ) but it provides a very good service for a damn sight more - is it perfect , nope but it’s better and cheaper than any other media outlet and I think your hopes will be dashed. If it’s that offending the answer is simple - don’t watch it or read the website or listen to the radio

But still pay for it!

That is the problem for the BBC whether the discussion is about perceived bias, the salaries of executives or the amount of sport or whatever is shown.

It's not just a media company, it is a form of taxation.

 

[Old Skier]

The BBC employs a great deal amount of people all over the world ,

No they don't, most working overseas work for other agencies and are self employed as are most of the big front line staff we see and hear on the BBC

 

[Doon frae Troon]

But still pay for it!

That is the problem for the BBC whether the discussion is about perceived bias, the salaries of executives or the amount of sport or whatever is shown.

It's not just a media company, it is a form of taxation.

Many staunch Nationalists in Scotland refuse to pay the licence fee, using other news outlets to get 'delayed news'.
I believe that there has been very few, if any, recent prosecutions by the BBC in Scotland
This is despite countless threats of court action.

I think it is quite hard to prove someone was actually watching live BBC in this complex communication age.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Many staunch Nationalists in Scotland refuse to pay the licence fee, using other news outlets to get 'delayed news'.
I believe that there has been very few, if any, recent prosecutions by the BBC in Scotland
This is despite countless threats of court action.

I think it is quite hard to prove someone was actually watching live BBC in this complex communication age.

Hasn't this recently been changed so it's not only watching live that requires a license but also accessing catch up services as well?

EDIt - just Googled it and it seems it does cover I-Player and catch up

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/Live-TV-and-how-you-watch-it

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But still pay for it!

That is the problem for the BBC whether the discussion is about perceived bias, the salaries of executives or the amount of sport or whatever is shown.

It's not just a media company, it is a form of taxation.

Don’t pay for it then and don’t use it - you can only watch non BBC catch up stuff but you not pay the telly licence or tax as you call it if you don’t want too

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Many staunch Nationalists in Scotland refuse to pay the licence fee, using other news outlets to get 'delayed news'.
I believe that there has been very few, if any, recent prosecutions by the BBC in Scotland
This is despite countless threats of court action.

I think it is quite hard to prove someone was actually watching live BBC in this complex communication age.

Whether or not you watch BBC you are still required by law to have a TV licence if you view any live television programme, whoever the broadcaster.

Yet the licence fees are used exclusively to fund the BBC.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Don’t pay for it then and don’t use it - you can only watch non BBC catch up stuff but you not pay the telly licence or tax as you call it if you don’t want too

Rather than offering a "like it or lump it" answer could you not offer a more mature argument.

Why, if I only want to watch live programming from other broadcasters, do I have to fund the BBC?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Rather than offering a "like it or lump it" answer could you not offer a more mature argument.

Why, if I only want to watch live programming from other broadcasters, do I have to fund the BBC?

Because unfortunately there are far too many people in the uk that want something for nothing so if you allowed people to not pay the licence fee but then not use one single BBC service that includes radio and website or indeed any BBC service ( you’re not just paying for the telly ) how many do you think would then go on and actually use it ? Only have to look at how many stream illegally football or films etc to show people don’t want to pay for stuff and would rather it free

So unfortunately you will be a victim of other people’s dishonesty

And when you think of the amount of content the BBC is superb value for money and advert free

 

[Old Skier]

Yet the licence fees are used exclusively to fund the BBC.

Some funding goes to the likes of Ch4.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Because unfortunately there are far too many people in the uk that want something for nothing so if you allowed people to not pay the licence fee but then not use one single BBC service that includes radio and website or indeed any BBC service ( you’re not just paying for the telly ) how many do you think would then go on and actually use it ? Only have to look at how many stream illegally football or films etc to show people don’t want to pay for stuff and would rather it free

So unfortunately you will be a victim of other people’s dishonesty

And when you think of the amount of content the BBC is superb value for money and advert free

Sorry but that doesn't cut it.

I can see no reason (other than it being a tax) why there should be a universal licence fee.

Why should any of us fund the viewing choices of others?

 

[Hobbit]

Sorry but that doesn't cut it.

I can see no reason (other than it being a tax) why there should be a universal licence fee.

Why should any of us fund the viewing choices of others?

Have you never watched the BBC? Blue Planet? The Open coverage? Putting programme together doesn't happen without spending money, and they don't rake in millions from advertising. £3 a week for access to whatever is cheaper than £25 a week for Sky, and Sky are also raking in millions from advertising.

Are we mugs for paying £100 a month to Sky whilst they are also raking in all the advertising money?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Have you never watched the BBC? Blue Planet? The Open coverage? Putting programme together doesn't happen without spending money, and they don't rake in millions from advertising. £3 a week for access to whatever is cheaper than £25 a week for Sky, and Sky are also raking in millions from advertising.

Are we mugs for paying £100 a month to Sky whilst they are also raking in all the advertising money?

I have no problem with paying my licence but I would like the BBC to be politically neutral and share the funding in fair proportions around the UK.
As an example BBC Scotland showing England Ladies playing Kazakhstan at prime time really is extracting the urine.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Have you never watched the BBC? Blue Planet? The Open coverage? Putting programme together doesn't happen without spending money, and they don't rake in millions from advertising. £3 a week for access to whatever is cheaper than £25 a week for Sky, and Sky are also raking in millions from advertising.

Are we mugs for paying £100 a month to Sky whilst they are also raking in all the advertising money?

Don't have Sky so the comparison is not relevant in my case.

Personally I would have no issue with the BBC becoming subscription based or accepting adverts.

After all they spend so much time these days trailing their own programmes it's almost like advertising in any event.

I don't dispute that they produce some (not a lot) good stuff . It's the universal method of their funding that I am opposed to.

 

[User62651]

I have no problem with paying my licence but I would like the BBC to be politically neutral and share the funding in fair proportions around the UK.
As an example BBC Scotland showing England Ladies playing Kazakhstan at prime time really is extracting the urine.

Think that would only be an issue if Scotland ladies were playing at the same time and weren't being shown. England ladies are a British team, it's BBC so not a problem imo.
We have to be fair here, proportionately we're 8% of UK so we could expect our tv schedule to have 8% 'Scottish' BBC programmes, another issue but why does BBC Alba get so much alloction when only 1% of Scots speak gaelic?