BB MATCH PLAY PUTTING WHEN YOU CANT SCORE

[Baldgolf1987]

Question

Playing in a match play bb comp the other day.

Team A have a putt and hold a putt for a 3

Team B have a putt for a 4 and 3 (right next to each other)

Can team B putt the putt for 4 before putt for 3 so he be can show his partner the line. Even though he can’t beat team A as they are in the hole for 3?

 

[rulie]

Rule 23.6 covers. The simplest thing for Side (not Team) A to do is concede side B's putt for a 4 and pick up the ball or knock it away. Then if side B were to putt the one for a 4 they would be in breach of Rule 23.6 and the player on side B who is putting for a 3 could not score for the hole, the other partner's 4 would be that side's score for the hole.
You can read the Rule here:

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[Baldgolf1987]

Rule 23.6 covers. The simplest thing for Side (not Team) A to do is concede side B's putt for a 4 and pick up the ball or knock it away. Then if side B were to putt the one for a 4 they would be in breach of Rule 23.6 and the player on side B who is putting for a 3 could not score for the hole, the other partner's 4 would be that side's score for the hole.
You can read the Rule here:

The R&A

The R&A seeks to engage in and support activities for the benefit of the sport of golf from The Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St Andrews.

www.randa.org

So because team a A didn’t concede the putt they are still allowed to putt.

Regardless if they can’t beat the score what’s already in the hole?

Just never seen anyone concede a putt when they are out the hole. Is the player putting for 4 not already been beaten and out the hole?

 

[rulie]

So because team a A didn’t concede the putt they are still allowed to putt. Yes.

Regardless if they can’t beat the score what’s already in the hole? Yes.

Just never seen anyone concede a putt when they are out the hole. Is the player putting for 4 not already been beaten and out the hole? Yes.

 

[Steven Rules]

So because team a A didn’t concede the putt they are still allowed to putt.

The two key normal default principals for this situation are that the Rules permit a player to continue to play out a hole even when they can't score (although to help pace of play, the Rules encourage but don't mandate players to stop playing when they can't score on a hole) and, secondly, when it is a side's turn to play either player in the side may play next.

Rulie's excellent suggestion, which is drawn from the Exception to Rule 23.6, provides a strategy for the opponents to prevent the other side from using those default principals to their advantage.

 

[Steven Rules]

On a side note, it is considered serious misconduct to deliberately play away from the hole and then towards the hole to assist the player’s partner (such as helping the player’s partner learn the break on the putting green). Clarification 1.2a/1

 

[rulie]

On a side note, it is considered serious misconduct to deliberately play away from the hole and then towards the hole to assist the player’s partner (such as helping the player’s partner learn the break on the putting green). Clarification 1.2a/1

And the penalty for this serious breach is disqualification of the side.

 

[Baldgolf1987]

The two key normal default principals for this situation are that the Rules permit a player to continue to play out a hole even when they can't score (although to help pace of play, the Rules encourage but don't mandate players to stop playing when they can't score on a hole) and, secondly, when it is a side's turn to play either player in the side may play next.

Rulie's excellent suggestion, which is drawn from the Exception to Rule 23.6, provides a strategy for the opponents to prevent the other side from using those default principals to their advantage.

The two key normal default principals for this situation are that the Rules permit a player to continue to play out a hole even when they can't score (although to help pace of play, the Rules encourage but don't mandate players to stop playing when they can't score on a hole) and, secondly, when it is a side's turn to play either player in the side may play next.

Rulie's excellent suggestion, which is drawn from the Exception to Rule 23.6, provides a strategy for the opponents to prevent the other side from using those default principals to their advantage.

rule 23.3c

• One partner has holed out or had their next stroke conceded and the other partner either chooses not to hole out or has a score that cannot count for the side, or
• The result of the hole is decided (such as when the other side’s score for the hole is lower than the side could possibly make).

Is this telling you that if you can not count for the side then it’s the same as the putt been conceded.

So side A putting in for 3 basically concedes the putt for 4.

Yes he can put however 23.6 states you can’t putt if your out the hole if it helps your partner with the line

 

[backwoodsman]

rule 23.3c

• One partner has holed out or had their next stroke conceded and the other partner either chooses not to hole out or has a score that cannot count for the side, or
• The result of the hole is decided (such as when the other side’s score for the hole is lower than the side could possibly make).

Is this telling you that if you can not count for the side then it’s the same as the putt been conceded.

So side A putting in for 3 basically concedes the putt for 4.

Yes he can put however 23.6 states you can’t putt if your out the hole if it helps your partner with the line

Not really. Not when you look at the context of the whole of that rule.

 

[Steven Rules]

Is this telling you that if you can not count for the side then it’s the same as the putt been conceded.

No. It is simply telling you when a side has completed a hole. It iis not seeking to liken it to having a putt conceded.

however 23.6 states you can’t putt if your out the hole if it helps your partner with the line

That's not what 23.6 states. The Exception to 23.6 says you can’t putt if your out the hole next stroke has been conceded if it would helps your partner with the line