HughJars
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Which is perfectly right and proper, just wish when we Scots say the same in reverse, we're not then labelled as bigots and anti-English
Avril,he's gone.Thank God.
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HughJars
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So Strachan then?
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Woopdeedoo, like a season at Middleborough negates his better than O'Neill achievements at Celtic?
Despite him being a Dons legend, he became a bit of a hate figure up Pittodrie way with his antics while at Celtic, nevertheless, I thionk he'd be an excellent candidate.
LanDog
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I see your point. But I didn't say it negated his Celtic achievements I'm just saying that he is nowhere near proven, and if I Were a Scottish Fan I wouldn't want him at the helm.
I'd want a safer pair of more experienced hands in the job. Someone with good man management is needed as Scottish football is very volatile at the moment, a lot of Talent, but also an awful lot can go wrong, and while the team are currently in free fall in the rankings, experience is needed to get them out
pokerjoke
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Its all about opinions,it just goes to show by some of the suggestions,even the Scots havnt got a clue who to go for.
I think they will go safe with Strachen or Mcleish.
Listening to Stephen Pressley on talk sport this afternoon,i thought he spoke a lot of sense.
It goes deeper than the current first team squad,right down to grass roots.
England have finally grasped that context,but we wont see the benefits for years,Scotland will have to start thinking
long term soon,not just a quick fix.
Di Canio lmao,just a crazy suggestion imo.
I think they will go safe with Strachen or Mcleish.
Listening to Stephen Pressley on talk sport this afternoon,i thought he spoke a lot of sense.
It goes deeper than the current first team squad,right down to grass roots.
England have finally grasped that context,but we wont see the benefits for years,Scotland will have to start thinking
long term soon,not just a quick fix.
Di Canio lmao,just a crazy suggestion imo.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Interesting that you think this as listening to Chris Houghton on Talk Sport this morning he reckons the Scotland set up is probably the strongest placed long term for the future. He thought that because of whats happened with Rangers and lack of money then many teams are being forced to blood youngesters early with players like James Forest, Johnny Russell doing well for the last couple of seasons and up coming players like Tony Watt at Celtic and various young Rangers players being blooded into the first teams early.
It still remains to be seen if they will up the ante and break into the International set uo eventually but Houghon reckoned the Welsh and Irish teams don't have this happening.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Like Valentino, I think you've got this arse about tit. There's no real problem with the Scots youths, and in all honesty hasn't been for a long time, Billy Stark (in charge for the next game) has been doing a great job at U21 international level to back up great work that Celtic & Aberdeen in particular have been doing with their youth policies, it's when they move from the under-age sphere, something goes wrong.
But there are plenty youngsters coming through, from the likes of the already mentioned Watt, Forest & Russell, plus others like Ryan Jack, Fraser Fyvie, and the incredible talent of 17 year old Ryan Fraser
pokerjoke
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As i said Valentino its all about opinions.
It doesnt matter who you listen too theres a difference of opinion.
I honestly cant see if you if you go for Strachen you will move forward long term.
It doesnt matter who you listen too theres a difference of opinion.
I honestly cant see if you if you go for Strachen you will move forward long term.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Im not so sure either about Strachan but he does seem to get the best and command the respect from ordinary players.
We shall see.
macca64
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Can you have AVB please,he'sdoing my head in!!
smange
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Winning the SPL as a manager of one half of the old firm (pre sevco) is no great acheivement in all honesty, it was a 2 team league where the title was usually won or lost in the 4 games between the 2 teams. He also had money to spend and yes he may have done that wisely but in all honesty if I managed one of the old firm in those days I reckon I would have won a trophy or two.
Take off your green tinted spectacles and look at his record at other clubs where he wasnt in charge of a "big" team and I think you will find he has a decidedly uninspiring record.
Lets just hope there are some good applicants and we can get someone to get the best out of the players..
Have to say i disagree,Boro is the only place he has really struggled without mitigating curcumstances like players being sold from under him.He did a sterling job at both Coventry and Saints and people seem to dis his CL acheivments for whatever bizarre reasons.
That said he wouldny be my first choice but he's light years ahead of who we have had over the last 5 plus years!
smange
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His first season at Coventry they avoided relegation by one point, then they went on to finish 11th, 15th, 14th in the next 3 seasons before being relegated the following season.
At Southampton they finished 11th and 8th under him and at Middlesboro they were 20th in the Championship when he left.
As I say "decidedly uninspiring" and is it really a record that suggests he is an International manager?
I just dont see why there seems to be a clamour from a lot of people to get him in the job.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
having lived just outside Cov for a couple years, you'll find the locals have nothing but praise for the job he did. Sometimes league position doesn't tell it all, and relative success with what he had to work with - and that goes at Celtic too against the cheats, even if just a two horse race, like say the "fabulous" Guardiola for instance - is more to do with it. Failed at boro yes, but i'd say before that he did pretty damned good.
And you forget to state the fact he did that with on the whole a bunch of decidedly pish players....fits the bill actually!
Plenty before him but no doubt we'll get something safe...I would actually take him as i am convinced they'll serve us up a Jim Jeffries type of appointment!
williamalex1
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i will say it again the killie manager mr shiels . i think he's got the attitude we need and the balls required [
G1BB0
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Tiger
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I think if you write off World Cup qualification as an opportunity for the new manager to blood the new generation of youngsters and find their feet that you could well be in with a shout of qualifying for the Euros in 2016 as UEFA are changing the format. Personally I'm not a fan of 24 team competitions. I remember when the World Cup was like that it was a bit naff but nonetheless it would be great to see the Tartan Army in France in four years time
Doon frae Troon
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I wonder if the SFA have considered a cheeky approach to SAF.
sydney greenstreet
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Green tinted specs for stating a fact ? jog on.
