Average driver distance now and then - R&A

I think people simply don't know how far they hit the ball. I am guilty of this and didn't really learn until I started playing with a GPS device. I could have sworn that I was able to hit 250 quite regularly but the reality is that 250 TOTAL is a stonker of a shot. Inspite of this realisation, I am still longer than most people I have ever played with and I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever actually seen someone hit a 300 yard carry.

Go to a forum meet then, you will see it loads of times.
 
Does it matter? I am one of those that will be bringing the number down and I reckon 230 yard is about my average. I would rather that and say 50% FIR than 260 yards and 30% FIR. As long as I can keep the ball playable as often as possible with my shots I am still capable of making a reasonable score
 
Interesting. I think the fact that this relates to the "average" player says a lot. According to a program on Sky today, 53 year old Fred Couples out drives the Fred Couples of 30 years ago when he was 23 by 16 yards.
For me the most interesting aspect of the R&A report was the fact that beginners or at least high handicappers progress to using a driver much more quickly. I remember when I started, amongst all the guys that started playing around the same time, it was the better players that advanced to using a driver the soonest. Until you had advanced to a certain level, you were advised never to hit driver and it was a good while before I even bought one. It seems to me that the advancement of technology in clubs as far as the "average" player is concerned has benefitted us more through making the club more forgiving and much easier to hit.
 
Interesting. I think the fact that this relates to the "average" player says a lot. According to a program on Sky today, 53 year old Fred Couples out drives the Fred Couples of 30 years ago when he was 23 by 16 yards.
For me the most interesting aspect of the R&A report was the fact that beginners or at least high handicappers progress to using a driver much more quickly. I remember when I started, amongst all the guys that started playing around the same time, it was the better players that advanced to using a driver the soonest. Until you had advanced to a certain level, you were advised never to hit driver and it was a good while before I even bought one. It seems to me that the advancement of technology in clubs as far as the "average" player is concerned has benefitted us more through making the club more forgiving and much easier to hit.

Good observation sweep.
The 1.62 ball would travel further as well.
No watered fairways, mainly links and heathland courses and a much better standard of average golfer are also factored in.
 
I would agree with what people are saying with regards to how far people actually hit the driver. I just used the old google earth and it's measuring stick method to get a rough idea of what I averaged the other day. The fairways where wet and long about 1 or 2 clubs of wind. I averaged roughly 265 from 9 drivers I hit and that is having the wind with, against and across. I have played with people before that believe they hit the ball 300 from the tee in summer, but never get within 20 yards of my tee shots that roughly average 280ish when the fairways are shorter and running better.
 
It would be easy for all of us interested in this to measure all of our 'driver' tee shots over a couple or three rounds - and I mean all and not just those that end up on the correct fairway. I guess many can already do very easily using their DMD. Then take an average of the lot.

I'd suggest a sample size of at least 22 tee shots - that's probably two rounds for most folks I'm guessing - my normal game sees me taking driver on 11 holes. If I play this weekend I'll note where all my tee shorts finish and get measurements using Google Maps/Earth and see what it tells me.
 
Good observation sweep.
The 1.62 ball would travel further as well.
No watered fairways, mainly links and heathland courses and a much better standard of average golfer are also factored in.

Don't know how the aerodynamics of the small ball compare with the current ball - but the greater surface area of the large ball will certainly give greater and more prolonged 'lift'. Bigger ball = More drag, but that is partly what today's clever dimples and dimple patterns are designed to reduce - as well as increasing further 'lift'. But on size alone and everything else being equal - I would guess the large ball could actually go further.
 
Average drive distances just now are out the window down my course.

Depending on the wind direction you could be a driver and a 9 iron to the green on a par 5, and a driver, 3 wood, 6 iron and then a pitch onto the green on a short par 4.
 
Average drive distances just now are out the window down my course.Depending on the wind direction you could be a driver and a 9 iron to the green on a par 5, and a driver, 3 wood, 6 iron and then a pitch onto the green on a short par 4.
I think this time of the year can be a good time to get average driver distances. Soft wet fairways with long grass so you are not getting a massive run out like summer. I think if you can get out on a day when it is not too windy then you can get a really good idea on what your sort of carry distance is.
 
It would be easy for all of us interested in this to measure all of our 'driver' tee shots over a couple or three rounds - and I mean all and not just those that end up on the correct fairway. I guess many can already do very easily using their DMD. Then take an average of the lot.

I'd suggest a sample size of at least 22 tee shots - that's probably two rounds for most folks I'm guessing - my normal game sees me taking driver on 11 holes. If I play this weekend I'll note where all my tee shorts finish and get measurements using Google Maps/Earth and see what it tells me.

I have a measure shot function on my GPS but have never used it. I assume it is easy so if I remember and the course isn't frozen tomorrow, I will try to measure all my drives.
 
Average drive distances just now are out the window down my course.

Depending on the wind direction you could be a driver and a 9 iron to the green on a par 5, and a driver, 3 wood, 6 iron and then a pitch onto the green on a short par 4.

And with that perhaps you hit the nail on the head - do we only 'count' drives that are hit in 'fair' conditions rather than across all conditions in which we play. If I hit a short or poor drive I will often seek excuses - and weather and ground conditions are oft fallen back on in my head - as are 'I was going for it - I wouldn't normally have done that :)' when playing in a fourball etc.
 
I have a measure shot function on my GPS but have never used it. I assume it is easy so if I remember and the course isn't frozen tomorrow, I will try to measure all my drives.

Ditto. I've had the intention of doing it before but always forget. I'll tie a knot in something!
It will be a good day to do it for me as well. Normally I hit driver on 8 or 9 holes, but it's our 3 club tomorrow so it will be 15 times.
 
Ditto. I've had the intention of doing it before but always forget. I'll tie a knot in something!
It will be a good day to do it for me as well. Normally I hit driver on 8 or 9 holes, but it's our 3 club tomorrow so it will be 15 times.



Not sure why you waould want to try and work out your distances this time of year.

Cold temps and air pressure means the ball will just not fly as far as in summer.
 
Not sure why you waould want to try and work out your distances this time of year.

Cold temps and air pressure means the ball will just not fly as far as in summer.

Well clearly but it will still be interesting to see and will also give something to compare summer yardages to.
 
And with that perhaps you hit the nail on the head - do we only 'count' drives that are hit in 'fair' conditions rather than across all conditions in which we play. If I hit a short or poor drive I will often seek excuses - and weather and ground conditions are oft fallen back on in my head - as are 'I was going for it - I wouldn't normally have done that :)' when playing in a fourball etc.

You will not hear a moan out my mouth If I crack a drive off down the fairway nearing 300 yards downwind.

Different story when my drive is barely making the fairway when it's coming the opposite direction!
 
Seems like we all have a defined set of conditions under which we measure our OK drives. Interesting - as our 'best' OK/good drives in summer when conditions are 'perfect' are perhaps as anomalous as our 'worst' OK/good drives that we hit in 'winter' conditions - they should cancel each other out. Maybe conditions at this time of year are not far from 'average' UK golfing weather conditions - so we take out the weather variable from the equation.
 
You will not hear a moan out my mouth If I crack a drive off down the fairway nearing 300 yards downwind.

Different story when my drive is barely making the fairway when it's coming the opposite direction!

Both very true and why we should really take averages over as large a sample as possible. But I think if you have a howling wind behind you on a couple of holes, there will be other tee shots when that same howling wind will be a mighty big distraction as you stand there - never mind what it might do to your ball after you have hot it :)
 
Not sure why you waould want to try and work out your distances this time of year.

Cold temps and air pressure means the ball will just not fly as far as in summer.

It's not to work my distances out, I'm quite happy that I know them.
I just thought it might be interesting to work out an average distance based on a real round rather than saying my average distance is <insert guess here>.
 
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