hairball_89
Club Champion
to be fair… I’ve been known to do that in the depths of winter.
Augusta National golf course
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Springveldt
Well-known member
I 3 putted from 4 foot on Wednesday night as the pin was in a position you can get away with during winter but not now. Aimed over a cup outside and missed on the low side and ran 4 foot away. Missed on the high side on the comeback.Make them firm ,fast and bumpy like ours
Ours are quite sloping and when they make them to fast it’s just silly.
You can hit a two foot put off the green.
As for Augusta, I think it’s a fair test as it’s usually won by those that control their irons the best. The greens are tough, but if you hit the right spots you are rewarded.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
It’s been there for 130 yrs .
The greens were not designed to be as quick as modern machines can get them.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Sounds like it needs softened, or that pin position not used.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes we’ve started resetting some greens but it’s going to take years.
That’s to much like common sense!
Head GK dosnt play golf so some pin positions are brutal.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Why does it need to be 'fair'? It's the Masters - only the absolute best of the best should be able to win it. And like they always say, very few people win it at the first time of asking, you need that experience of which bit of the green to hit and where you cannot miss.
It's fit for purpose - you need to Master the game to play well there.
It's fit for purpose - you need to Master the game to play well there.
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garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I absolutely love it as a course. Doubles and birdies all over the place.
If I was there for 4 days I'd spend the first one watching Langer go round in a couple over. Unbelievable.
If I was there for 4 days I'd spend the first one watching Langer go round in a couple over. Unbelievable.
IanMcC
Well-known member
Its a course with trick, 'crazy golf' greens, that punish good shots at almost every hole.
Should not even be a Major, I reckon. Players Championship is far more justified in calling itself one of the Majors.
I know this is just about the course, so I wont start on the invitation policy or the extreme policing at the event.
Should not even be a Major, I reckon. Players Championship is far more justified in calling itself one of the Majors.
I know this is just about the course, so I wont start on the invitation policy or the extreme policing at the event.
Crow
Crow Person
Last player to use a persimmon driver to win a major, 1993 Masters with a Wood Bros.
Most have played there more than once so know their way round. As a result they should know how to play each hole and where and when you can leave it. As a result I thinkit s a fair set up and great entertainment
fenwayrich
Assistant Pro
The tournament is almost always won by one of the elite players. I think that says it all.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Bobby Jones designed Augusta to be relatively straightforward for the handicap golfer - especially those with higher handicaps as they would comprise most of the membership. But designed the greens so that there were a couple (no more) of very testing pin positions on each that would require the very best - inc pros - to plot and play their way from tee to green very precisely. Makes it an excellent and fair test for all levels of golfer.
I know some of the media guys that have played it and play off 4 or 5 and they really struggled. Absolutely different test and the elevation changes make club selection so hard
Swango1980
Well-known member
To be fair, I'm sure many 4 or 5 handicappers have really struggled on standard club courses. After all, most rounds they submit will be worse than handicap, just like us all.
Added to that, I bet CR is a lot higher than par for the back tees (although I believe it isn't measured). So, a 4 or 5 handicapper could actually have a decent day shooting in the 80's, so an average to poor day probably feels horrific
D-S
Well-known member
It is measured. See post #222 on the Masters thread.
Very true but playing on the Monday in the media lottery the greens are apparently are nothing anyone has ever seen before or since. I do think I'd be happy to play irrespective of how many I shoot. You'll likely only get one go
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
I think that ss they have tried to defend the course against the bombing ball now, the course has lost a lot of its grace and guile.
Whilst I don't really like to see greens as quick as sheet glass, the want for massive spin on shorter clubs by the (mainly) US players does need a little more punishment if not executed perfectly.
Whilst I don't really like to see greens as quick as sheet glass, the want for massive spin on shorter clubs by the (mainly) US players does need a little more punishment if not executed perfectly.
VVega
Assistant Pro
I found this video best in highlighting the greens challenge.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Does it involve the rolling of a beach ball? If not, I'm not watching it
Jigger
Club Champion
This was my thoughts when Garcia spun 2 back into the water on 12 a few years back. He put it beyond the pin too.
Can’t help love the history, atmosphere, excitement with pro golfers being truly tested on there brain as well as skill.
I think it so well thought of in the states as not many other course challenge players like this.
