Are you proud?

So you think it should be acceptable for a player to dive to ensure the ref awards a penalty - sad state of the game now
 
Not exactly! No one wants to see anyone injured but your saying he only had 2 choices, get injured or dive!
What about jump (as he did) and land on 2 feet or at least try, he threw himself forward and dived, saved himself an injury and made it look like there was contact.
He did what 99% percent of players would do, still doesn't make it right.

I actually agree with what you are saying. In fact, his easiest option of the 3 would be to jump and stay on his feet. But why would he if the opposition has committed an offence? Is it your responsibility to get out of the way of someone trying to kick you in the street? Or is the offender at fault for breaking a law?
 
So you think it should be acceptable for a player to dive to ensure the ref awards a penalty - sad state of the game now

Completely agree Phil, I really do. My first point is that we're long past the point to reverse this trend, so why is their such uproar when a high profile player acts this way? It happens week in week out and has done for years here, decades abroad. I'd place a large wager that every manager actively encourages it, even the Big Sams and Pulis' of the world, regardless of what they say in public.
 
To convince the referee to award the penalty. It's a shame the game has reached this stage, but it has. The media should now accept it - stop making it back page news.

FWIW he also dived against Arsenal to win the penalty that ended their undefeated run all those years ago - that shouldn't have been a penalty as the tackle was withdrawn before Rooney reached the defender, whereas last nights was not. Gerrard has also dived throughout his career, and on most occasions they have been just that, dives - but another exact example of what happened last night was against Sheffield United on the opening game of the season a few years back - there was absolutely no contact from the defender but the defenders actions meant he couldnt get his shot away - referee was correct to award the penalty.

And on the second line - No. It's been a foul for a while now. Whether you believe that law is good for football is neither here nor there.


Wow its such a clearcut decision & as some say its clearly in the rules , so why is it that you need to convince the ref?
 
I don't think it should ever be accepted

More condemnation is required

Action after towards the offenders

Retrospective bans for diving
 
This thread must be something akin to being stuck on the m25 with no way off.
Talk about going round in circles.. :rolleyes:

Glad i support the shakers, nothing like this ever happens in the lower divisions, don't u know..:whistle:

Anyway imho i think Mr Birchy sums it up pretty well...:thup:


On another note:-
A troll
:- Someone who makes a deliberatly provocative post, with the sole aim of upsetting someone, or eliciting an angry response..

2 posts, 2 days, same author, and no follow up.
Just saying....:whistle: :thup:
 
I actually agree with what you are saying. In fact, his easiest option of the 3 would be to jump and stay on his feet. But why would he if the opposition has committed an offence?
Because if you're correct and it was a penalty anyway, the only way to ensure the Ref didn't get it wrong was to emphasize the "fall" and dive😃
 
Personally this is why I don't take as much notice at football these days

Diving and silly money involved

Don't get me wrong I'll go to a match or watch one
 
Quite an amusing thread really...

So, to all the disgusted forumers.... What exactly are you going to do about it?

You must appreciate that the authorities don't have the stomach to address it properly.. So what exactly are you going to do to show your disgust at the richest league in the World, in the richest Sport in the World? :D
 
Quite an amusing thread really...

So, to all the disgusted forumers.... What exactly are you going to do about it?

You must appreciate that the authorities don't have the stomach to address it properly.. So what exactly are you going to do to show your disgust at the richest league in the World, in the richest Sport in the World? :D

Dear Jim....... ​Noooo..........
 
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