Are we ALL Racist?

[Doon frae Troon]

I see the England manager is insisting that the English players all sing the British national anthem at the World Cup.

 

[dewsweeper]

I see the England manager is insisting that the English players all sing the British national anthem at the World Cup.

Oh dear!!
Were off.

 

[Tashyboy]

And asda are selling wearable flags that make you look like you have joined the Klu Klux Klan.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And asda are selling wearable flags that make you look like you have joined the Klu Klux Klan.

The 'crusade' outfits are also not very politically correct.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Exactly but thats got lost in the new politically correct world we now live in

...and my father used to extend that a little to 'it's not what you say it's how you say it'

And by that he means - quoting the DIY company ad of a few years ago 'We've got the Jewson lot'. He didn't like that sort of thing as we all know what word 'Jewson' is intended to be - and hence the phrase could still be offensive to any who really don't like to hear swearing. That is almost certainly a generational thing but it has spilled over from my dad's generation to me - and I too find such wordplay unnecessary, too smart for it's own good - and yes - a little offensive.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The 'crusade' outfits are also not very politically correct.

Shall we get rid of the St George's Cross as well as that is all over the crusades outfit ?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Shall we get rid of the St George's Cross as well as that is all over the crusades outfit ?

Why would you want to get rid of your national flag?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why would you want to get rid of your national flag?

Well if a crusade outfit is now not PC it's basically a Flag on a cloak so where do we stop ?

 

[Rumpokid]

The 'crusade' outfits are also not very politically correct.

So skirts and blue and white face paint are ok then?..Lighten up.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So skirts and blue and white face paint are ok then?..Lighten up.

Kilts don't cause any offence even if they are not traditionally Scottish.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Kilts don't cause any offence even if they are not traditionally Scottish.

It's wots under'em wot causes offence

 

[Rumpokid]

Kilts don't cause any offence even if they are not traditionally Scottish.

So who are the offended..You..

 

[davidy233]

I will put a little thing out here for anyone that says they have never had a racist thought. Have you ever said.......

Typical Germans, nicking all the sun beds........

typical south american footballer, diving all the time.......

typical all dirty italian footballer.........

ever called a Welshman Taff, a Scotsmen Jock.

ever referred to a southerner as a shandy drinking puff

i could go on, but because you are not referring to someone's colour then it seems to be accepted. But I tell you what, if you said something like in your workplace and someone took offence to it then you would be up to your neck in it.

I've never subscribed to any of the prejudices you quote there - so it's not everyone

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

..and so the Ofsted report on the B'ham schools and alleged infiltration and 'take-over' by some wishing to promote Islamic points of view and practice was out yesterday. And I was wondering listening to representatives of the schools involved defending some of the practices and things that have been going on and avoid answering other questions - did we all listen and think 'fair enough - good point - no problem there' or did most of us on occasions think 'aye right!'.

And I must reflect upon why I had my suspicions about some of what I was hearing. And in reflecting I rather reluctantly conclude in today's multi-cultural UK society that other than Religious Education as a subject, we really need to remove aspects of faith from school life.

 

[Hacker Khan]

..and so the Ofsted report on the B'ham schools and alleged infiltration and 'take-over' by some wishing to promote Islamic points of view and practice was out yesterday. And I was wondering listening to representatives of the schools involved defending some of the practices and things that have been going on and avoid answering other questions - did we all listen and think 'fair enough - good point - no problem there' or did most of us on occasions think 'aye right!'.

And I must reflect upon why I had my suspicions about some of what I was hearing. And in reflecting I rather reluctantly conclude in today's multi-cultural UK society that other than Religious Education as a subject, we really need to remove aspects of faith from school life.

I'm not sure exactly how much direct 'faith' teaching is done in schools other than in RE. And in this case, if you have a very vocal governors who have an agenda, then saying you can't teach faith apart from in RE classes would not have done much.

And possibly this could be in a separate thread and not in one addressing if we are all racist?

 

[USER1999]

I don't think any sort of RE should be taught, full stop.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't think any sort of RE should be taught, full stop.

Unless of course you go to a religious school

There are still a great deal of them in the country

Religion itself isn't the problem - it's people's interpretation of it

There is nothing wrong with teaching people different cultures and about different religions but it has to be at the right level and for the right motives

 

[Papas1982]

Unless of course you go to a religious school

There are still a great deal of them in the country

Religion itself isn't the problem - it's people's interpretation of it

There is nothing wrong with teaching people different cultures and about different religions but it has to be at the right level and for the right motives

I agree with this.

Re classes should be lessons basically explaining about religions. The main differences and that's it. I don't think they should be able to show a bias.

If you want that education go to church or mosque etc.

Re the radicalisation accusation. I hope they look into it properly, but I'd be surprised if anything comes from it. Race is one issue that the government will be loathe to make any negative headline on.

 

[USER1999]

Would the time not be better spent teaching something useful?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Would the time not be better spent teaching something useful?

Culture and religion can be useful to some people though.

Some people will find music and art of no use or geography or history etc etc

Got to cover all the subjects and religion is a big part of the world we live in