Anyone else not keen on Texas Scrambles ?

[Slab]

Couple a year is fine, for charity or corporate gigs even themed days ie couples day etc
Roll ups doing it is a no go for me, no need when betterball is an option

 

[IanMcC]

I believe the trouble with Texas Scrambles is the percentage allowances under WHS. For 2 and 3 ball scrambles, they are fine. Especially 2 ball scrambles, where it is 35% low and 15% high. The winner can come from anywhere, and the field is usually tightly grouped. A 4 player Scramble is a different matter altogether. I think the 25/20/15/10 allowances massively favour a high handicapped team. You could put money on the highest handicapped tea being in the prizes, if not winning. If its a Charity day, then I will play along, but deal me out otherwise.

 

[Slab]

I believe the trouble with Texas Scrambles is the percentage allowances under WHS. For 2 and 3 ball scrambles, they are fine. Especially 2 ball scrambles, where it is 35% low and 15% high. The winner can come from anywhere, and the field is usually tightly grouped. A 4 player Scramble is a different matter altogether. I think the 25/20/15/10 allowances massively favour a high handicapped team. You could put money on the highest handicapped tea being in the prizes, if not winning. If its a Charity day, then I will play along, but deal me out otherwise.

While agreeing with what you say, for me the 'trouble' with scrambles is: I get to play once a week, I want to know how my game is doing week to week . I can't judge that in a scramble playing 'someone else's' ball

 

[Orikoru]

I believe the trouble with Texas Scrambles is the percentage allowances under WHS. For 2 and 3 ball scrambles, they are fine. Especially 2 ball scrambles, where it is 35% low and 15% high. The winner can come from anywhere, and the field is usually tightly grouped. A 4 player Scramble is a different matter altogether. I think the 25/20/15/10 allowances massively favour a high handicapped team. You could put money on the highest handicapped tea being in the prizes, if not winning. If its a Charity day, then I will play along, but deal me out otherwise.

We talked about it quite recently when it came up somewhere. Not sure what the right answer is, but it feels like even high handicappers can contribute great shots in a scramble, so teams getting 11 and 12 shots always feels like too many. Maybe they should try 20/15/10/5 and see if that helps. Or just cap the number of shots a team can get at 8 or something.

 

[AliMc]

I know we've discussed this before but I really don't understand how anyone could imagine that any formula is going to provide an equitable handicap system for scrambles in serious competition.
They're just for fun.

You just do have to treat them as a fun game with your mates, but the winners are usually picking up around £100 each in the ones I've played recently

 

[KenL]

Haha... Here's a scramble that happened at my place on Sunday.

Winning a scramble by 5 shots seems suspect to me.

 

[Orikoru]

Winning a scramble by 5 shots seems suspect to me.

Three of them weren't members and I have no idea what their handicap indexes were. The one lad who is a member is off 13, so at least two of them must have been pretty high to get a team handicap of 11.

 

[Wilson]

Good for Corporate Days when 60% of the field plays once a year, and I don’t mind it as a once a year social event if the teams are drawn, like Crow outlined, but otherwise no thanks.

 

[The Fader]

The best way to ensure a more equitable outcome in a scramble is to issue every team a magic pencil

Our Saturday Comp this week is 4 man scramble. Expecting winning score to be sub 50

 

[louise_a]

Not a great fan, I will play if pushed but I find because you can rely on someone else you take on silly shots or dont concentrate propwrly.

 

[Skytot]

I don’t think greenkeepers like them very much. 4 divots right next to each other.

That’s a very good point . We have our Captains Weekend next week .

 

[Mel Smooth]

I love 'em. They're a bit of fun, and great for newbies to get involved in some competitive golf without pressure.

Just don't take the competitive element too seriously.

 

[Rlburnside]

Dislike any form of scramble and try to avoid them but if I’m asked to make up a team I generally oblige, but there’s far too many at our club.

I always feel it’s a waste of a day and get bored come the end of the round. I’d rather play proper competitive golf , plus the handicaps are never fair

 

[TigerBear]

Love a scramble to mix it up every now and again.

Great fun every time I've played one.

 

[Petercool]

While agreeing with what you say, for me the 'trouble' with scrambles is: I get to play once a week, I want to know how my game is doing week to week . I can't judge that in a scramble playing 'someone else's' ball

You’ve said this before 2 times.
Maybe you should let people just use the search function to get your opinion rather than posting you identical thoughts all the time.

 

[sunshine]

You’ve said this before 2 times.
Maybe you should let people just use the search function to get your opinion rather than posting you identical thoughts all the time.

Stalker alert!

 

[LincolnShep]

I love scrambles - and not just because they give me a rare opportunity to play my second shot from the fairway. I like the team element, discussing lines, tactics, playing order. I like the low scoring, 18 holes of birdies and pars is the aim. I like watching long putts drop because the player going fourth has already seen the line three times. I grew up playing football and cricket so an individual sport like golf seems slightly lacking - pairs and team formats are my preference.

 

[LincolnShep]

Despise them. Even made it part of my Captain's speech a few years back that "there'll be no bloody Texas Scrambles whilst I'm Captain" to a raucous cheer.
And as for Open Scrambles, cheats' charter. Why would anyone waste money playing in one of those at another course?

It's only a waste of money if you play golf in the expectation of receiving prizes.
An open entry fee gets you a round of golf, usually for less than the normal green fee. How is that a waste of money?

 

[Crazyface]

My place limits the allowance a team can get to 8 I think. I enjoy them as you have a team of four having a laugh and going for everything. I have even been on the winning team once. But only once. We've not held one in three years. No one cares about them now. In fact participation in comps has fallen off dramatically. I'm not even bothered anymore. I've got my three comps in, and that will do.

 

[Pathetic Shark]

It's only a waste of money if you play golf in the expectation of receiving prizes.
An open entry fee gets you a round of golf, usually for less than the normal green fee. How is that a waste of money?

Because you're not playing the course as a single player. Most of your shots are being picked up and you go somewhere else.