Anyone else get frustrated in Pairs matches?

[Spartacus]

If this is how you feel, then I wonder how your partner does.

Just tell him straight that he needs to improve or he's up the road!

 

[Spinn77]

We play together a few times a week, there aren't any issues. To be honest, he spent the week prior saying we'd win by 4 or 5 holes....perhaps its that attitude and the subsequent performance that i was irked by?

 

[Spartacus]

To be honest, he spent the week prior saying we'd win by 4 or 5 holes....perhaps its that attitude and the subsequent performance that i was irked by?

Tell him to get real, buck up or buck off!

 

[jammydodger]

Spinn , I reached the club summer pairs final last year. In the final I posted 6 birdies on my own and we still lost. My partner didnt beat my score om any of the holes we played...

So what , he played some fantastic golf in the previous rounds and as a PAIR we got to the final and as a PAIR we lost the final.

You can be as frustrated as you like but I dont think being 2 under your h/c is that great a score to be taking the moral high ground with in a 4bbb. 2 under gross on the back 9 is fine but what about being 8 over on the front 9 ?? If you had played to your h/c and only been 4 over front 9 then you would probably have won. Have a look at yourself before getting annoyed with your partner...

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Pairs golf is like any team event. You win as a team and lose as a team same as football, cricket or whatever. There can't be any "I did this and he didn't" as there will be other times when he plays much better than you and probably inside thinks "I wish this idiot would sort his game out." It's golf. It's hard enough anyway without worrying about when your partner will come in

 

[RGDave]

I just let my partner play. However, it does rather annoy me when he has a shot over ALL of us (on some holes) and insists on taking a driver and hitting it straight off the course.
We have lost the 2nd hole every single game (and that's at least 6 matchplay games).
He could get home with 6 iron, 9 iron and even if he misses the green will have a chip and 2 putts for a 5 nett 4.
I might have a word t.b.h. before the semi-final match.
In fairness, he's been a saint on the par 5s.

 

[Spinn77]

I'd agree with you dodger if i'd have said anything to him - which would have been wrong.

I encourage him round the course each and every time were out there, whether were playing as a team or in medal play. I would do that with anyone i know from the whole club. In fact, this mate has only ever beaten my scorfe (gross or stableford twice in two years), i'm more than happy for him to have the good round/score between us

Think you've got the wrong end of the stick mate, not much wrong with feeling a bit frustrated. As mentioned, probably hightened by his sheer insistance beforehand that we'd simply win.


there's no point to your personal attacks, lighten up. im not an ignorant, bad losing, win at all cost idiot you seem to think

 

[Smiffy]

My partner didnt come in on a single hole, so i either halved or won the holes myself.....I was getting pretty annoyed but you can't really say anything can you?!
I practically played them on my own!

But this is the bit I don't understand....
"I was getting pretty annoyed but you can't really say anything can you?"

If you could have said anything, what would you have said, and to who ?

 

[jeffc]

sorry to put cat among pigeons but if I was your partner I would give you the push.
You had a good round - aren't you the lucky one

 

[HawkeyeMS]

i was getting pretty annoyed but you can't really say anything can you?". Not critical of him at all - critical of myself more than anything.

Fair enough but this doesn't sound critical of yourself. It sounds like you had the hump with your partner and wanted to tell him so. If you had the hump with yourself, why would you need to say anything.

Anyhow, I'm not here for arguments so apologies if I misunderstood your post.

Just out of interest. If you shot 2 under gross on the back 9 you didn't leave much scope for your partner to score did you? With him getting shots there must have been at least some holes where he ended up with the same net score as you surely?

Sounds like you played well but fell foul of what I said above, the best players don't always win pairs, you have to have a certain amount of luck in that one of you scores well on every hole.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

You are moaning that you played well and your partner didn't, as such you have issues with pairs competitions.

Now you're worried about a greensomes match against the same pairing. However, that greensomes is a semi-final. Therefore your partner couldn't have been too bad to get you into the last 4, can he?

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There are alsorts of ways at looking at pairs matches.
2 years ago me and a friend won a 4BBB. The article in the local paper stated that Paul was the star of our team as he came in on 14 holes and me on only 4.
However, more often than not I was closer on the green than him but missed my birdie putt after he had made certain of the par.
If you look at the card I didn't contribute too much, although I had a couple of birdies in those 4 holes.

 

[Spinn77]

My partner didnt come in on a single hole, so i either halved or won the holes myself.....I was getting pretty annoyed but you can't really say anything can you?!
I practically played them on my own!

But this is the bit I don't understand....
"I was getting pretty annoyed but you can't really say anything can you?"

If you could have said anything, what would you have said, and to who ?

Don't think i really explained the circumstances up front. In the 2 or 3 rounds prior (i play all the time with my mate) he kept saying we'd coast through against the other pair, going on about winning by 4 or 5 holes etc. I told him it wouldnt be that simple for either team and we had to play a shot at a time and not waste the shots he gets. Mentioning that it would be useful if he at least halves the holes where he, and them, get the shots. Never take anything for granted in sport.....

We have two tight par 3's, SI's 1 & 3. On the first i tell him to lay it up and be sure to make 4, its really unlikely they'll make a proper 3. He does so, I hit my tee shot on and i make a 3 for par - halved.

next one, tight again OOB left and stream on the right. Does he follow the same tactic? No, hits his 1st OOB then his provisional in the stream. I was already on this green.

Playing 17 they all get shots. One of them hit into lake off the tee, there other is in the trees on the right. I get on the back of the green in 3 - 30 foot from the hole. There player takes two from under the trees and still has 150 to the green. i make a 5. My partner is green side in 3, chips badly and two putts, leaving the 1st effort 8 foot short - a free putt to win. there fella gets it up and down from 150 for his 5 (for a 4) to take the hole.

Guess that after the week before, and hearing the 'it'll be easy this week' stuff i expected more care to be taken. I'd never get hacked off with a partner hitting bad shots. He's off 18/19 so that's going to happen, so what.

What should I have said? Think i should have Told him again to lay up and make a 4 for 3 the second time (at the time thought we'd just had the same convo the hole earlier so was no point. When he pulled a rescue out, i didnt want to not back him to hit it so kept my mouth shut. COuld have told him to put it away but that stinks of a lack of confidence. My fault though, should have coaxed him into a 7i.

Annoyed with myself for not telling him what to do a bit, but at the same time dont want to walk round dictating what someone else wants to do.

Its not a big deal, hope he's learnt not to expect a win without having to think through whats going on, better course management perhaps.

 

[Smiffy]

That must be a heck of a course you have there if two of the par 3's are SI's 1 & 3.
WHere do you play?

 

[JustOne]

I probably shot a +6 and we lost by 2 holes,..

Had you played better you might have won

 

[Spinn77]

it's actually got 6 par 3's. Those two play consecutively, OOB runs all down the left, trees and stream down the right. Card wreckers.

Windmill village, nr Coventry.

 

[Robobum]

Looks as though you're barking up the wrong tree for any sympathy or backing on this one spin!!

Not to rub salt in any wounds but (IMO) as the low player in your group the pressure was on you to make birdies not fudge it round near your h'cap. Wouldn't matter if you shot +20 over your h'cap as long as there were loads of birdies thrown in.

I always play these things as though I'm taking them both on by myself anyway. Then any contribution that my partner makes is a bonus.

You might need to change your approach to this format if you are thinking about your score. Makes no odds if you're +6 or +26 at the end as long as you've beaten their low hole score often enough.

 

[chrisd]

Windmill village

So your partner has more trouble than you getting the ball through the windmills window then!!

 

[Spinn77]

Robo, i went for everything near the green - had to. was trying to chip in, hole mid range putts. hit it alright all day, would have scored nicer in stroke play.

was probably a bit fed up and vented a bit..

 

[Robobum]

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was probably a bit fed up and vented a bit..

Thought that was it to be fair.

Most enjoyable win I've had with my 4ball partner was when he was struggling big time with his game. I played really nicely for 17 holes, my mate had the ball in his pocket before reaching the majority of greens.

On the 18th I have my one shocker for the day, our opponents are in for par which left my mate with an up & down for half and some extra holes. He hits his one good shot for the day which pitches, spins then releases and tracks all the way before dropping in for a birdie and win. The look on his face was priceless, embarrasment, joy, shock all rolled into one.....brilliant.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Have to say that with HTL and me its the opposite. With his length I let him bash it and go for the shots. He prefers to grip it and rip it and so I try and play a steady game and hang around to come in where possible.

As those that have played against us, we tend to work pretty well especially in a matchplay scenario. It doesn't have to be the lower guy taking all the risks. The difference is knowing when to take the risk on.