Angry thread - why are some courses open at this time of year?????????

[dufferman]

I know the answer is because money makes the world go round, but still.

Played Traditions on Sunday after a relatively dry week down here in Surrey. No torrential rain, no heavy downpours, a little rain yes, but not enough in my stupid, stupid mind to make a golf course unplayable. After taking my payment last Tuesday in full as a deposit, we turned up to be told only 15 holes open. "Just play the last 3 again" they said.

The course was empty. Probably because everyone who plays there normally wouldn't be stupid enough to play there when it's rained in the slightest.

We proceeded to go out and play, as it was 9am and didn't fancy packing the gear in the car to find somewhere else.

The course was horrific. Almost every fairway was waterlogged. We were all finding bogs of water everywhere. Although the greens were good, the rest of the course was really unplayable. We walked in after 12 holes, disgusted by the fact that Crown Golf hadn't decided to close the course.

I've played Traditions a few times, and I knew it wasn't great with water. But, in my naive head, when a course is open, it generally means it is playable. Plenty of courses close on the basis it is too wet to play. Apparently, not Traditions.

I'll not be rushing to give them my money again.

:rant:

 

[patricks148]

I know the answer is because money makes the world go round, but still.

Played Traditions on Sunday after a relatively dry week down here in Surrey. No torrential rain, no heavy downpours, a little rain yes, but not enough in my stupid, stupid mind to make a golf course unplayable. After taking my payment last Tuesday in full as a deposit, we turned up to be told only 15 holes open. "Just play the last 3 again" they said.

The course was empty. Probably because everyone who plays there normally wouldn't be stupid enough to play there when it's rained in the slightest.

We proceeded to go out and play, as it was 9am and didn't fancy packing the gear in the car to find somewhere else.

The course was horrific. Almost every fairway was waterlogged. We were all finding bogs of water everywhere. Although the greens were good, the rest of the course was really unplayable. We walked in after 12 holes, disgusted by the fact that Crown Golf hadn't decided to close the course.

I've played Traditions a few times, and I knew it wasn't great with water. But, in my naive head, when a course is open, it generally means it is playable. Plenty of courses close on the basis it is too wet to play. Apparently, not Traditions.

I'll not be rushing to give them my money again.

:rant:

You should have used a mat

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So you knew it's bad in the rain - booked to play in december - we have had some big downpours and you still went to play ? Sorry but it's not the courses fault

 

[guest100718]

I know the answer is because money makes the world go round, but still.

Played Traditions on Sunday after a relatively dry week down here in Surrey. No torrential rain, no heavy downpours, a little rain yes, but not enough in my stupid, stupid mind to make a golf course unplayable. After taking my payment last Tuesday in full as a deposit, we turned up to be told only 15 holes open. "Just play the last 3 again" they said.

The course was empty. Probably because everyone who plays there normally wouldn't be stupid enough to play there when it's rained in the slightest.

We proceeded to go out and play, as it was 9am and didn't fancy packing the gear in the car to find somewhere else.

The course was horrific. Almost every fairway was waterlogged. We were all finding bogs of water everywhere. Although the greens were good, the rest of the course was really unplayable. We walked in after 12 holes, disgusted by the fact that Crown Golf hadn't decided to close the course.

I've played Traditions a few times, and I knew it wasn't great with water. But, in my naive head, when a course is open, it generally means it is playable. Plenty of courses close on the basis it is too wet to play. Apparently, not Traditions.

I'll not be rushing to give them my money again.

:rant:

Why didnt you juts ask for a refund?

 

[dufferman]

So you knew it's bad in the rain - booked to play in december - we have had some big downpours and you still went to play ? Sorry but it's not the courses fault

Yes - I'd seen in January's floods it closed. Apparently a small amount in the last week was also enough to make it unplayable. As I said, if a course is open and taking your money, I'd expect it to be playable!

 

[dufferman]

Why didnt you juts ask for a refund?

The person behind the counter was the pro, have to take it up with Crown Golf.

 

[Cheifi0]

So you knew it's bad in the rain - booked to play in december - we have had some big downpours and you still went to play ? Sorry but it's not the courses fault

The main point is that the course was open and therefore at a sufficient standard to be playable. I wouldn't be happy and would be looking for a refund.

 

[patricks148]

What i find the strangest is you had to pay for something and where not using a prize

 

[Dan2501]

I played at Stoneleigh Deer Park Golf Club the other week and it was ridiculously wet too. Lost so many balls by the ball just landing, plugging and disappearing, especially off the tee. Frustrating, but it was the end of November, so sort of accepted it, can't expect it to be dry and completely playable at this time of year. Lancaster on the other hand though was pristine when I played it in November. It's so well maintained, and the use of mats on the fairway really makes a difference.

 

[JCW]

Well you only have yourself to blame but they are out of order , If I were you i would write to crown golf asking for my money back or a raincheck to come back and play the course another day next year at a date of your choice and subject to availabllty . try it and you should get something back , We were rained off at Vilamoura old course this year and I when in and ask for something , did not matter what and got 8 green fees for next year ............good luck

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You didn't have to play - it was your choice at the end of the day - the fact three holes were closed should have been a hint

 

[Marshy77]

You didn't have to play - it was your choice at the end of the day - the fact three holes were closed should have been a hint

That 3 holes were unplayable.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

You didn't have to play - it was your choice at the end of the day - the fact three holes were closed should have been a hint

Not like you to disagree with someone.

If the course is open, this suggests it's playable. The pro should know the course the best, should give you a heads up.

I had an annoying experience at a course where we turned up having booked in advance, to find the course on temporary greens due to full greends having work done. They were slowly coming off the temps onto full greens but we couldn't wait the 4 hours for that to be done. Once we had got past the greenkeepers it was temps all the way in. We walked off and the pro has given us a free 4ball to come back and use, was a nice gesture and what I would hope you would get in this case.

 

[delc]

How dry or wet courses are at this time of the year rather depends on what sort of ground they are built on. You can't expect parkland courses built on clay subsoil to drain as well as heathland or links courses. Our club, also run by the Crown Group, is largely built on gravel subsoil and generally drains rather well in wet weather. It often remains open when all the other courses in the area are closed. Normally only snow causes our course to close. However last winter we were reduced to 9 holes and then 13 holes, because a few holes are built on London clay and these just became unplayable bogs in the extremely wet weather that pertained then. However many of our members were happy just to go out and play a few holes. Be grateful for what you can get in Winter time!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Our course manager works along the lines off - the course closes itself

Did anyone ask the Pro what state the course is in ? Did anyone ask - if the course is playable because 3 holes are closed ?

Knowing the course suffers from rain and seeing how we have a great amount of rain over the last week I would have thought alarm bells would have rung

 

[guest100718]

On a different note, I was looking on Woburn to see how much a green fee is for.....how hard is it juts to put a price!

not everyone wants a bacon roll, coffee and a 2 course meal!

 

[dufferman]

Our course manager works along the lines off - the course closes itself

Did anyone ask the Pro what state the course is in ? Did anyone ask - if the course is playable because 3 holes are closed ?

Knowing the course suffers from rain and seeing how we have a great amount of rain over the last week I would have thought alarm bells would have rung

If you went to an ice rink and paid £22 entry, then found it was a pool of water, would you blame yourself for not asking the staff if the ice was skateable?

 

[guest100718]

If you went to an ice rink and paid £22 entry, then found it was a pool of water, would you blame yourself for not asking the staff if the ice was skateable?

I agree, if its open then its not unreasonable to expect it to be playable. Get in touch with crown, I am sure they'd give you a refund or return voucher.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If you went to an ice rink and paid £22 entry, then found it was a pool of water, would you blame yourself for not asking the staff if the ice was skateable?

If a 5th of it was closed off and no one else was there I would certainly question why :thup:

 

[chrisd]

Quite honestly Adam I'd be as brassed off as you. You book, they have your contact row and then decide to close 3 holes and suggest you play part of the course twice with no recompense - I'd be miffed too. A couple of years ago we sat in our club house on a Sunday morning and the course was closed, we rang a course that is normally drier than ours and they confirmed they were open so we booked a shot down there and, similar to your experience they had closed 2 holes, it took quite a row to get them to reduce the green fee and our party had to threaten to walk away.

I'm pretty sure that if Royal Cinque Ports had closed 3 or 4 holes last week Phil would have been one of the first to complain!