Andrew arrested!

[Voyager EMH]

These searches will relate solely to securing evidence relating to an offence of misconduct in public office, or similar offences. Anything else discovered is incidental, and will be seized and dealt with accordingly. That is how it works, not in the way you imagine.

That is pretty much how I imagined. Incidentally discovering evidence of an offence while searching only for evidence of a different offence.
In effect, on the lookout for owt, but officially there for one thing only. With all officers aware of what you state as the actual procedure being adhered to.

Like searching a premises for illegal drugs and incidentally finding unlicensed firearms and bomb making equipment.
I would hope all such searches are done with awareness of a possible discovery of other wrongdoing, rather than it going undiscovered.

Current topic - I will certainly be happy with anything about any wrongdoing being found - incidentally.

 

[Voyager EMH]

1. Are you going to volunteer to brush his teeth and wipe for him?
2. Can you just imagine him in general population?

1. No

2. Yes. Doubt if he can though. I think he would rather...

 

[Bunkermagnet]

1. No

2. Yes. Doubt if he can though. I think he would rather...

Do you think they'll check every orifice for contraband on his booking in?

 

[nickjdavis]

Will actual charges be laid against Andrew before or after Man Citys 115 charges are heard?

Or is it more likely that we will place a man on Mars first?

I know where Im putting my money.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Will actual charges be laid against Andrew before or after Man Citys 115 charges are heard?

Or is it more likely that we will place a man on Mars first?

I know where Im putting my money.

 

[Imurg]

 

[venger]

Who did it better?

 

[Tashyboy]

This might be a tad controversial, but why do you assume the Crown has only just found out about his actions?
I would suggest Mandy has been stripped of everything and will probably face the courts probably sooner than AMW

I don’t think they have only just found out, but there decision was well met. But who exactly told the Crown, the Government
If they did, then surely at the same time they knew all about Mandleson.

 

[Tashyboy]

You do realise, I take it, that any barrister worth their salary, never mind the best money can buy, will absolutely rip to shreds any case, the foundation of which is a search of premises which has not been conducted strictly according to the power used?

The officers conducting these searches absolutely will not be working on the basis that they are looking for “anything incriminating about anything”. If the officer in charge of a S18 search was ever to give evidence during which they suggested they had been on what amounted to a fishing expedition, seeking anything they could find which may be incriminating regardless of the offence to which the material relates, then there is every possibility that the entire search may be ruled unlawful. That in turn would very likely mean all evidence secured from the search would be inadmissible.

Your opening comment was pretty unambiguous. When I suggested that was not how things worked, you asked a supplementary question and I clarified exactly what the position is - any evidence relating to other matters may still be seized under a different section of PACE. But such material CANNOT be a focus of any search under S18 of PACE. The law does not allow it.

I absolutely get that we are largely disagreeing due to semantics, but there is no latitude allowed in search powers which entitles those exercising those powers to enter a property and conduct a search the focus of which is to find “anything incriminating about anything.”

These searches will relate solely to securing evidence relating to an offence of misconduct in public office, or similar offences. Anything else discovered is incidental, and will be seized and dealt with accordingly. That is how it works, not in the way you imagine.

Out of interest Billy. If a Laptop is found and the intentions of looking on said laptop is to find incriminating evidence eg emails.
If anything else is found like photographs etc could that can then be used for different charges

 

[Billysboots]

Out of interest Billy. If a Laptop is found and the intentions of looking on said laptop is to find incriminating evidence eg emails.
If anything else is found like photographs etc could that can then be used for different charges

Yes, Tash. It’s happened in any number of cases, some of them high profile ones.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I don’t think they have only just found out, but there decision was well met. But who exactly told the Crown, the Government
If they did, then surely at the same time they knew all about Mandleson.

I doubt very much the private goings on of the Royal family and it's members is fully known by the Government, no matter what we want to believe.