And, we're off.....2016/17

[Papas1982]

He's at the biggest club in England now, it wouldn't be accepted at united.

You really need to take a leaf out of stuart_c's book. You seem to be the sort of Liverpool fan that gives you all a bad name. It's never your fault, it's just what everyone else does. He seems to actually be intelligent and not completely biased, which is nice to see. He's right, you're a small to medium sized club, you should do your business correctly.

This post just has you doing all you claim Pete to be doing.

 

[BristolMike]

I think you'll find that most know that I call it as I see it on here.

I also have to try less hard as I support a club from the place of my birth, and I always find that the converts try toooooooooo hard.:rofl:

No convert. My uncle was at united when I was a kid and my first kit was a united kit, not that I need to justify myself to anyone. I probably go up as much as you do too 😊

 

[BristolMike]

This post just has you doing all you claim Pete to be doing.

United are the biggest club in England, even Liverpool fans would agree with that. I don't know if you got the small to medium sized joke, I'm fully aware they are the second biggest club in England.

 

[Papas1982]

United are the biggest club in England, even Liverpool fans would agree with that. I don't know if you got the small to medium sized joke, I'm fully aware they are the second biggest club in England.

Not the joke, more the accusation of blinkered loyalty when followed up with UTD not allowing it. Like Ferguson and Mourinho haven't had embarrassing moments with their behaviour in the past.

For the record. Pretty sure Utd were accused of tapping up Pogba.

Not the time you burnt £80m on him. More the first time you got him.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'm still laughing at BristolMike getting Pete and Stu mixed up :rofl:

 

[BristolMike]

Not the joke, more the accusation of blinkered loyalty when followed up with UTD not allowing it. Like Ferguson and Mourinho haven't had embarrassing moments with their behaviour in the past.

For the record. Pretty sure Utd were accused of tapping up Pogba.

Not the time you burnt £80m on him. More the first time you got him.

When he signed from Le Havre? Think you will find it was reported to FIFA and was rejected as a baseless claim. The claim then was his parents were paid, rather than him being tapped up as at that point he had no professional terms signed with anyone. Fifa investigated and united were cleared, so quite different.

 

[Liverbirdie]

No convert. My uncle was at united when I was a kid and my first kit was a united kit, not that I need to justify myself to anyone. I probably go up as much as you do too 

Ah, the old uncle link, it seems prevalent on here.

I have 8 uncles, 3 support Bristol City, 3 support Bristol Rovers, 1 supports Cheltenham (wierdo) - but I really like uncle man U fan......:smirk:

 

[BristolMike]

I'm still laughing at BristolMike getting Pete and Stu mixed up :rofl:

did I, oops. Stu seems intelligent and can see the bigger picture and how bad it looks on the club, Pete seems to have his blinkers on. Is that wrong?

 

[Papas1982]

When he signed from Le Havre? Think you will find it was reported to FIFA and was rejected as a baseless claim. The claim then was his parents were paid, rather than him being tapped up as at that point he had no professional terms signed with anyone. Fifa investigated and united were cleared, so quite different.

Fifa ruling in a big clubs favour. Shock horror!

As Liverpool aren't getting charged. Surely they have the same end result and so are the same.

I think most would acknowledge that lots of parents have been given incentives in the past and a parent will have more influence over a 16 yr old than an agent.

 

[BristolMike]

Ah, the old uncle link, it seems prevalent on here.

I have 8 uncles, 3 support Bristol City, 3 support Bristol Rovers, 1 supports Cheltenham (wierdo) - but I really like uncle man U fan......:smirk:

he was the one that bought me my first kit and was my idol as he was the footballer in the family and at united at the time. He's the reason I made it as far as I did in football. No city supports in my family, no chance at all 😂

I'm there pretty much every home game so more than welcome to meet for a drink when we play you at old Trafford next year 😊

 

[Deleted member 16999]

did I, oops. Stu seems intelligent and can see the bigger picture and how bad it looks on the club, Pete seems to have his blinkers on. Is that wrong?

Stop it, my sides are aching :rofl:

 

[BristolMike]

Fifa ruling in a big clubs favour. Shock horror!

As Liverpool aren't getting charged. Surely they have the same end result and so are the same.

I think most would acknowledge that lots of parents have been given incentives in the past and a parent will have more influence over a 16 yr old than an agent.

not really the same result. One club took it all the way and were cleared as there was no proof of any payments (bank statements checked etc) and one club made an embarrassing statement apologising for their behaviour as they had been caught a couple of months previously and were charged for it

 

[BristolMike]

Stop it, my sides are aching :rofl:

is that wrong then. I'm new here 😊

 

[Papas1982]

not really the same result. One club took it all the way and were cleared as there was no proof of any payments (bank statements checked etc) and one club made an embarrassing statement apologising for their behaviour as they had been caught a couple of months previously and were charged for it

So you honestly believe no player signed by utd has ever been tapped up?

Being caught out or getting away with it is the only difference here.

If Giggs spoke yo Mourinho and said he had Bales ear, would utd explore that avenue?

 

[BristolMike]

So you honestly believe no player signed by utd has ever been tapped up?

Being caught out or getting away with it is the only difference here.

If Giggs spoke yo Mourinho and said he had Bales ear, would utd explore that avenue?

I said that I believe every club has been in touch with an agent before speaking to a club, this gauges interest on both sides. The next step is to contact the club. I believe united would have done this with almost every transfer. The whole meeting the player etc is where Liverpool screwed up. If clubs want direct contact with a player they will usually use players who are close to them

If Giggs had Bales ear then fire away, Giggs isn't employed by united any more.

i couldn't ever imagine united needing to put a statement out like that though, no

 

[Papas1982]

I said that I believe every club has been in touch with an agent before speaking to a club, this gauges interest on both sides. The next step is to contact the club. I believe united would have done this with almost every transfer. The whole meeting the player etc is where Liverpool screwed up. If clubs want direct contact with a player they will usually use players who are close to them

If Giggs had Bales ear then fire away, Giggs isn't employed by united any more.

i couldn't ever imagine united needing to put a statement out like that though, no

So you accept they may not have? Therefore its more through luck than judgement that they haven't had to apologise?

Or do you believe if caught out utd wouldn't apologise?

 

[BristolMike]

So you accept they may not have? Therefore its more through luck than judgement that they haven't had to apologise?

Or do you believe if caught out utd wouldn't apologise?

i meant they would generally approach the agent first, but in the rare occurrence they may approach a club first. There are many ways to tap a player up without needing to go and meet a player without a clubs permission anyway realistically. Liverpool were just stupid doing something that is easy to find out. Use the press, use players, but don't send your manager to go and meet the player without speaking to the club.

 

[Papas1982]

i meant they would generally approach the agent first, but in the rare occurrence they may approach a club first. There are many ways to tap a player up without needing to go and meet a player without a clubs permission anyway realistically. Liverpool were just stupid doing something that is easy to find out. Use the press, use players, but don't send your manager to go and meet the player without speaking to the club.

I agree they were foolish.

Still think you're as bias as you claim anyone else to be. But then we all are when it comes to our clubs. :thup:

 

[BristolMike]

I agree they were foolish.

Still think you're as bias as you claim anyone else to be. But then we all are when it comes to our clubs. :thup:

i wouldn't say I was, but then again I wouldn't think united or any top club would be so amateur with basic parts of a transfer. I'm surprised they did what they did and it has embarrassed the club. I actually respect saints for standing up to them

 

[pbrown7582]

He's at the biggest club in England now, it wouldn't be accepted at united.

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I disagree I don't think for one minute any club would turn down the signings they want because they had to do it all by the book, if they can bend the rules to get the signature on a contract they will.
Its about not getting caught IMO!