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And, we’re off.......2018/2019
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Nope. There's more contact every single minute of every game.
Pretty poor that your first reply was to criticise the defending and not the dive, just because he's your player.
Sums up a lot of fans, although most Lpool fans paint themselves and their team above all the nonsense and often call it how it is better than most so a little bit surprised.
Liverbirdie
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Mo,mo,mo,mo,mo. Tut, tut.
Swingalot
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Trust me, we are not excited by his return. We have missed plenty of sitters with him up front.
SteveW86
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Regarding the Salah penalty, where is the line between going down too easily and diving?
On the Delph one, I think it was a red. Yes he won the ball, but he followed through and caught the player at knee height.
On the Delph one, I think it was a red. Yes he won the ball, but he followed through and caught the player at knee height.
huds1475
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ColchesterFC
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Is there a difference? If the contact isn't enough to bring the player down or unbalance him enough for him to fall then it's a dive. Part of the problem is with the fans that defend this kind of behaviour. I went to watch Colchester v Stevenage today and on several occasions fans around me made a comment that "he should have gone down there". Fans of all clubs need to stop excusing diving and to criticise it when it happens.
Liverbirdie
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TBH the VVD one the other week was worse as a follow through, but was a "cleaner" tackle.
Liverbirdie
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Yes, but the pundits and media could make a massive difference, also.
Swingalot
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You could say a dive is where there is no contact at all. Going down easy, then you need some form of contact.
SteveW86
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I’m in no way defending Salah, I’m a Sunderland fan so always a neutral in this thread.
For me there is always a grey line though between what is going down too easily/ a dive/ contact but no foul as each player and situation is different. Gamesmanship is much more common now, it wasnt stamped out quick enough. Personally I’d like to see refs give more yellows when a player goes down in the box without a penalty being awarded.
Then there is the can of worms where “if it’s not in the box that’s given as a free kickâ€, if it’s a foul outside the box, then it should be inside the box too.
ColchesterFC
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Totally agree with this. They also need to stop excusing it, and actually start calling it cheating or diving instead of simulation.
Liverbirdie
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In the last 10 years they have introduced a whole new lexicon in the football language:-
He had a right to go down
He won a foul
If there's contact, he has a right to go down
Etc, etc
ColchesterFC
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Yep, and they all mean pretty much the same thing...."He cheated and conned the ref into giving the decision". It's not been helped by players being fouled and trying to stay on their feet to carry on and then not getting the decision when they don't get an advantage. Refs need to be stronger both in terms of not giving decisions such as the Salah one today but also in giving decisions where a player has been fouled and tries to stay up and play on but doesn't actually manage to get any advantage.
Orikoru
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Just the 5 goals for Spurs this time then, we must have eased off. 
Second place with half the season gone looks rather nice. Just a shame about Liverpool winning the league really.
That Salah dive was pretty embarrassing. The feller just barely stroked his arm and he went flying. I'm usually happy with players going down under a poor challenge or contact that impedes them, but I'm not even certain that was enough contact to be considered a foul. He's done the job for his team though, that's football I guess.
Second place with half the season gone looks rather nice. Just a shame about Liverpool winning the league really.That Salah dive was pretty embarrassing. The feller just barely stroked his arm and he went flying. I'm usually happy with players going down under a poor challenge or contact that impedes them, but I'm not even certain that was enough contact to be considered a foul. He's done the job for his team though, that's football I guess.
Kellfire
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You’re always a neutral on this thread. You’re a Sunderland fan. You’re excusing a cheating action against Newcastle.
Yea I don’t think you’re neutral here...
SteveW86
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Where have I excused a cheating action exactly?
Kellfire
Blackballed
Salah to face no punishment. Conspiracy theories to go into overdrive given the games he would have missed...
fundy
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The only way they change the diving approach is by making decent retrospective action when a player dives, pretty clear the powers that be have no interest in doing so currently based on the Salah decision. The worst culprits for me are the ex pros who claim the rest of us dont understand when a footballer breaks a fingernail, that they have a right to go down, etc etc
The way forward is for the powers to be to reinstate what constitues a foul, clarify that tiny contact does not mean the right to go down, 1 game ban for first dive, 3 game ban for 2nd etc etc. Sadly never gonna happen and they will continue to devalue the game
The way forward is for the powers to be to reinstate what constitues a foul, clarify that tiny contact does not mean the right to go down, 1 game ban for first dive, 3 game ban for 2nd etc etc. Sadly never gonna happen and they will continue to devalue the game
MegaSteve
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Well done to Matic for refusing to feed the drivel...
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