And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[LIG]

Maybe refs need a foul severity scoring system and dish out punishments on a wider scale than yellow and red??

Sin bin a player, any player for 1/2/3/4/5 mins etc., before a yellow. Or a total of mins equals a yellow and on up to a red??

 

[Deleted member 1740]

The highlighted bit says it all Stu. Was a deliberate pull therfore a foul... ergo in the box it's a pen.

15 pens a game.....Love it! Let's ALL play Fair shall we!

If he doesn’t go down the way he did the ref plays on.

Like I said if it goes against us I’d be fuming.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

So either pulling a shirt is an offence or not?.
It goes on far to much, with players hoping they get away with it which invariably they do. Soft pen or not, the defender is at fault for pulling his shirt. I dont disagree Salah goes down easy, but the offence has already been commeitted and his silly reaction is a result of the silly action by the defender.

Yes it is.

Though it’s rarely policed and refs often let it go especially at corners.

 

[Kellfire]

Cheating is rife in the game but policing it is so hard.

They constantly appeal for throw ins and corners that they know shouldn’t go their way. That’s the most common cheat but it never gets mentioned.

When I play in my 6 aside team I only ever appeal for things I think should go my way.

One match I tackled an opponent and it went out for a throw. I jogged away, calling my teammates to drop in to defend it. Referee gives it the other way. Their players were rightfully livid, telling the ref that I wasn’t even contesting it but the ref basically said “I’ve given it now!”

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Cheating is rife in the game but policing it is so hard.

They constantly appeal for throw ins and corners that they know shouldn’t go their way. That’s the most common cheat but it never gets mentioned.

When I play in my 6 aside team I only ever appeal for things I think should go my way.

One match I tackled an opponent and it went out for a throw. I jogged away, calling my teammates to drop in to defend it. Referee gives it the other way. Their players were rightfully livid, telling the ref that I wasn’t even contesting it but the ref basically said “I’ve given it now!”

Did you tell the ref that it’s their throw in etc ?

As for “cheating” - all the diving and going down easily etc isn’t a new thing - it’s been going on for decades and fans are the same , quick to point out opponents when they dive etc but go meek or defend like crazy when it’s one of their own - we can all look through our own teams and see the players that make a meal of things or go down easily or dive etc but it’s rare that you see someone have a go at their own players ( think I saw Fundy have a pop at one yesterday ) . Things aren’t going to change unfortunately unless var changes players mentality and refs have the balls to bring out the cards

 

[Kellfire]

Did you tell the ref that it’s their throw in etc ?

As for “cheating” - all the diving and going down easily etc isn’t a new thing - it’s been going on for decades and fans are the same , quick to point out opponents when they dive etc but go meek or defend like crazy when it’s one of their own - we can all look through our own teams and see the players that make a meal of things or go down easily or dive etc but it’s rare that you see someone have a go at their own players ( think I saw Fundy have a pop at one yesterday ) . Things aren’t going to change unfortunately unless var changes players mentality and refs have the balls to bring out the cards

Yep - I gave him a shout - “Came off me, ref”.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Well the dust has settled now.

Seems like Salah is not a one season wonder,he dived last season as well.

Good to see Liverpool fans condemning Salahs blatant cheating,could really do anything else could they.

Liverpool’s Title to lose now.

Just to refresh your memory Tony

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/apr/20/alex-ferguson-has-word-ashley-young

 

[Kellfire]

Just to refresh your memory Tony

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/apr/20/alex-ferguson-has-word-ashley-young

What’s your point, caller?

Not the usual “you can’t criticise a team if your team has done it, too” line I hope?

 

[MegaSteve]

Think, in general, the fans (on the terraces and in the armchairs) just want players to respect the game...

 

[clubchamp98]

Cheating is rife in the game but policing it is so hard.

They constantly appeal for throw ins and corners that they know shouldn’t go their way. That’s the most common cheat but it never gets mentioned.

When I play in my 6 aside team I only ever appeal for things I think should go my way.

One match I tackled an opponent and it went out for a throw. I jogged away, calling my teammates to drop in to defend it. Referee gives it the other way. Their players were rightfully livid, telling the ref that I wasn’t even contesting it but the ref basically said “I’ve given it now!”

No way that’s enough to bring Salha down but the defender did pull him.= Foul
If he stays up ref gives nothing , if he goes down he gives the ref a problem. = penalty or dive.

It’s not good to see players going down that easy but until the refs and FA start to punish it properly they will carry on doing it.
Only just got home so only seen the highlights .

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Not the usual “you can’t criticise a team if your team has done it, too” line I hope?

Yep that is exactly my point. Plenty of people having a whinge about Salah's actions but I can't think of a single team in the PL (or any other league for that matter) that doesn't have players doing the same thing so why moan about it? Unfortunately it is part of the game now.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Think, in general, the fans (on the terraces and in the armchairs) just want players to respect the game...

Don’t the fans also need to respect the game and indeed the players - just look at recent events at Arsenal , Spurs and Chelsea - just read sometimes what is said on here , I think respect in football is long gone and I don’t expect to return beyond the odd occasions.

It’s a sport I suspect many would believe is spoilt by money.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Though it’s rarely policed and refs often let it go especially at corners.

Perhaps if more players were punished for the shirt pulling that goes on in every game (like they're supposed to) the players would stop doing it like they do?

I don't like this new "going down to ones knees" action when a player think he's fouled, Hazard being a prime and constant exponent of this, and Salah was wrong to do it yesterday. Let the ref decide.

 

[Kellfire]

Yep that is exactly my point. Plenty of people having a whinge about Salah's actions but I can't think of a single team in the PL (or any other league for that matter) that doesn't have players doing the same thing so why moan about it? Unfortunately it is part of the game now.

As long as people are critical of their own team, there’s no problem.

 

[clubchamp98]

Perhaps if more players were punished for the shirt pulling that goes on in every game (like they're supposed to) the players would stop doing it like they do?

I don't like this new "going down to ones knees" action when a player think he's fouled, Hazard being a prime and constant exponent of this, and Salah was wrong to do it yesterday. Let the ref decide.

He did and he said it was a penalty!
When Salha went down on his knees he asked the ref a question!

If he booked him for diving we would all be saying it was wrong because he was pulled back.
If he goes down and let’s the ref decide he’s diving.
If he stays on his feet the ref gives nothing!

That’s the way it is now it’s putting me off watching!
I think the ref got it wrong and he should have just played on.

 

[Pin-seeker]

If he booked him for diving we would all be saying it was wrong because he was pulled back.
on.

Would we?

 

[Kellfire]

Would we?

Not I!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Not I!

Apparently we’d all be saying it 🤷‍♂

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As long as people are critical of their own team, there’s no problem.

People aren’t though are they - there have been multiple incidents of diving from other teams and people aren’t critical of their own team - seen very passionate defences of players like Kane and Hazard when they have clearly dived or gone down to easy. As been said people are very quick to point fingers at other teams and their players yet go hiding when it’s their own players - Young for example has dived loads , when people were critical of him he was defended heavily by Utd fans.

Recently the only time I can recall a fan being critical of a player of their own diving is Fundy

 

[clubchamp98]

Would we?

Did he pull him or not?