And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Piece]

Hopefully if Watford continue to progress he'll be recognised. He was excellent against the (un)mighty irons yesterday.

He unofficially retired from England duty around 2012 to be with his children. I don’t know what he thinks now but he has been brilliant this year and better than what I’ve seen from our current incumbents!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Great game for the neutral and don't think Pickford has done his reputation an ounce of good but a bit like Sterling he's another I think Southgate will stick with through thick and thin, certainly until he drops a massive clanger in an England shirt to cost us an important game.

Sterling is a different class to Pickford.
Pickford,Maguire & Trippier were all made to look better than they are at the World Cup.
Sterling got stick because it’s frustrating as a England fan when they don’t bring their club form to international.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sterling is a different class to Pickford.
Pickford,Maguire & Trippier were all made to look better than they are at the World Cup.
Sterling got stick because it’s frustrating as a England fan when they don’t bring their club form to international.

The problem with Sterling is 4 goals in 47 games isn't good enough at this level and not is going 27 games without a goal. I simply don't think he's produced what he's capable of at club level on the international stage and others should have been given a chance and extended run.

 

[Piece]

I think his back injury ruined him personally

Kirkland had severe mental issues that badly affected his career.

 

[Pin-seeker]

The problem with Sterling is 4 goals in 47 games isn't good enough at this level and not is going 27 games without a goal. I simply don't think he's produced what he's capable of at club level on the international stage and others should have been given a chance and extended run.

So basically Homer you agree with me.

 

[Jensen]

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Sterling is a different class to Pickford.
Pickford,Maguire & Trippier were all made to look better than they are at the World Cup.
Sterling got stick because it’s frustrating as a England fan when they don’t bring their club form to international.

Sterling was found out at international level, you need to be more clinical with the limited chances that come along. He's also made to look a lot better due to the players that surround him at City.
Can't agree with Maguire and Tripier both are quality

 

[Jensen]

Kirkland had severe mental issues that badly affected his career.

Never knew that, very sad to hear.
What were the issues he had

 

[Dan2501]

Did hear a slightly better one

Alisson concedes 7 goals in 5 months
Pickford concedes 6 whilst I was in Asda 😂

5 live was interesting - all questioning Silva and whether or not he knows what he is doing , football no better , sitting lower in the table

What? Are you serious? I honestly wonder if you even watch Football sometimes, or think before you post. No better? We were absolutely dreadful to watch last year, the football we've been playing this year has been FAR better.

The points tally might point in Fat Sam's favour right mow but we've just been on a run where we've played City and Spurs back-to-back with Liverpool a couple of games before that, so it's hardly surprising we've not earned many points of late, and we didn't play badly in any of those games. The main issue today was the lack of Idrissa Gueye, Gomes and Davies are not defensively enough to take on a team with Alli, Eriksen, Son and Kane. We created plenty of chances today but were massively lacking defensively due to way we were set-up. Against City Richarlison missed golden opportunities and Mina gifted them a goal, against Liverpool it took a freak Pickford mistake at the death to beat us. We're not playing badly, and it's only a matter of time before we start turning it around. Marco is going an excellent job, the club is buzzing right now, we've done some excellent business in the transfer window and we're starting to play some great stuff. We've dropped to 11th after this weekend but only 3 points behind 7th, 5 points behind 6th. Last year at this point we were looking at a relegation fight. One disappointing result doesn't undo the great work Silva and the team are doing.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Thanks


Sterling was found out at international level, you need to be more clinical with the limited chances that come along. He's also made to look a lot better due to the players that surround him at City.
Can't agree with Maguire and Tripier both are quality

Sorry but that’s rubbish.
Yes Sterling plays with better players at City.
But the opposition that England came up against at the WC was bang average.
Maguire & Trippier are decent Prem players.
They aren’t top draw IMO.

 

[Pin-seeker]

What? Are you serious? I honestly wonder if you even watch Football sometimes, or think before you post. No better? We were absolutely dreadful to watch last year, the football we've been playing this year has been FAR better.

The points tally might point in Fat Sam's favour right mow but we've just been on a run where we've played City and Spurs back-to-back with Liverpool a couple of games before that, so it's hardly surprising we've not earned many points of late, and we didn't play badly in any of those games. The main issue today was the lack of Idrissa Gueye, Gomes and Davies are not defensively enough to take on a team with Alli, Eriksen, Son and Kane. We created plenty of chances today but were massively lacking defensively due to way we were set-up. Against City Richarlison missed golden opportunities and Mina gifted them a goal, against Liverpool it took a freak Pickford mistake at the death to beat us. We're not playing badly, and it's only a matter of time before we start turning it around. Marco is going an excellent job, the club is buzzing right now, we've done some excellent business in the transfer window and we're starting to play some great stuff. We've dropped to 11th after this weekend but only 3 points behind 7th, 5 points behind 6th. Last year at this point we were looking at a relegation fight. One disappointing result doesn't undo the great work Silva and the team are doing.

Don’t give him the satisfaction mate,he just looks for an argument on every thread.
Even the proper Liverpool fans get fed him with him.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What? Are you serious? I honestly wonder if you even watch Football sometimes, or think before you post. No better? We were absolutely dreadful to watch last year, the football we've been playing this year has been FAR better.

The points tally might point in Fat Sam's favour right mow but we've just been on a run where we've played City and Spurs back-to-back with Liverpool a couple of games before that, so it's hardly surprising we've not earned many points of late, and we didn't play badly in any of those games. The main issue today was the lack of Idrissa Gueye, Gomes and Davies are not defensively enough to take on a team with Alli, Eriksen, Son and Kane. We created plenty of chances today but were massively lacking defensively due to way we were set-up. Against City Richarlison missed golden opportunities and Mina gifted them a goal, against Liverpool it took a freak Pickford mistake at the death to beat us. We're not playing badly, and it's only a matter of time before we start turning it around. Marco is going an excellent job, the club is buzzing right now, we've done some excellent business in the transfer window and we're starting to play some great stuff. We've dropped to 11th after this weekend but only 3 points behind 7th, 5 points behind 6th. Last year at this point we were looking at a relegation fight. One disappointing result doesn't undo the great work Silva and the team are doing.

Umm please re read what I posted

5 live was interesting etc etc ?! Ie the Everton fans calling in where saying what I posted and they seemed to have a different opinion to yourself , certainly wanted Pickford dropped and money spent

I have only seen you a couple times because on telly , lost all those games mind you

 

[Tashyboy]

Great game for the neutral and don't think Pickford has done his reputation an ounce of good but a bit like Sterling he's another I think Southgate will stick with through thick and thin, certainly until he drops a massive clanger in an England shirt to cost us an important game.

Trouble is with sterling, who is the natural right winger to take Sterlings place. As against Pickford, there is others to choose from and having seen joe Hart for many a season Pickford is not much of an improvement. Once more and ironically, pep was slated for getting rid of him at City. Since Hart has gone, he has done nothing of note elsewhere. Yet never heard one post saying Pep was correct in getting rid.

 

[Piece]

Never knew that, very sad to hear.
What were the issues he had

Severe anxiety. He’s just launched an app to help with mental health...https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/features/329977-yapa-app-launch-chris-kirkland

 

[Papas1982]

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Sterling was found out at international level, you need to be more clinical with the limited chances that come along. He's also made to look a lot better due to the players that surround him at City.
Can't agree with Maguire and Tripier both are quality

I think tripper is class. I’d have him ahead of Walker in a back four.

Maguire imo is never worth the £70m touted for him. Good in the air, but not rounded enough for a top 4 club imo

 

[Papas1982]

Trouble is with sterling, who is the natural right winger to take Sterlings place. As against Pickford, there is others to choose from and having seen joe Hart for many a season Pickford is not much of an improvement. Once more and ironically, pep was slated for getting rid of him at City. Since Hart has gone, he has done nothing of note elsewhere. Yet never heard one post saying Pep was correct in getting rid.

Tbf Tashy, until you got ederson in, your keepers weren’t really doing any better than hart. So whilst you’ve got a much better keeper now. You spent how much on bravo? Not really a transfer merry go round that should earn Pep plaudits imo.

 

[Tashyboy]

Pep did get slated for bringing in Bravo and he was pants. But my comments in relation to Joe Hart was the comparison to Pickford. They are two peas in a pod. Back to Bravo, when he was bought his credentials were excellent. He had won trophies for Chile and Barca by the bucketload. He was the real deal, unfortunately he was pants when he played for us in the league. Pep then went out and spent £30 million on an unknown in Ederson and was told he had massively paid over the odds. He has been a revelation at City.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I think tripper is class. I’d have him ahead of Walker in a back four.

Maguire imo is never worth the £70m touted for him. Good in the air, but not rounded enough for a top 4 club imo

Don’t agree with the 1st part.

But 2nd part is spot on.
If he’s worth £70m then Hazard & Kane must be £300m

 

[Papas1982]

Pep did get slated for bringing in Bravo and he was pants. But my comments in relation to Joe Hart was the comparison to Pickford. They are two peas in a pod. Back to Bravo, when he was bought his credentials were excellent. He had won trophies for Chile and Barca by the bucketload. He was the real deal, unfortunately he was pants when he played for us in the league. Pep then went out and spent £30 million on an unknown in Ederson and was told he had massively paid over the odds. He has been a revelation at City.

I get the comparison of Hart and Pickford. Tbf I think Hart deserved his spot, Pickford whilst maybe the best if the bunch earned it on a good six months.....

My response though was due to the last point you made where you seemed to think Pep deserved plaudits.

I think a lot of keepers coming in from Spain take a season to adjust as the footy style is so different. Plus, ot matter how good city are/were when he played. The gulf between the top few in a Spain’s and the rest is far faster than that of city and the rest of prem clubs.

 

[Liverbirdie]

What? Are you serious? I honestly wonder if you even watch Football sometimes, or think before you post. No better? We were absolutely dreadful to watch last year, the football we've been playing this year has been FAR better.

The points tally might point in Fat Sam's favour right mow but we've just been on a run where we've played City and Spurs back-to-back with Liverpool a couple of games before that, so it's hardly surprising we've not earned many points of late, and we didn't play badly in any of those games. The main issue today was the lack of Idrissa Gueye, Gomes and Davies are not defensively enough to take on a team with Alli, Eriksen, Son and Kane. We created plenty of chances today but were massively lacking defensively due to way we were set-up. Against City Richarlison missed golden opportunities and Mina gifted them a goal, against Liverpool it took a freak Pickford mistake at the death to beat us. We're not playing badly, and it's only a matter of time before we start turning it around. Marco is going an excellent job, the club is buzzing right now, we've done some excellent business in the transfer window and we're starting to play some great stuff. We've dropped to 11th after this weekend but only 3 points behind 7th, 5 points behind 6th. Last year at this point we were looking at a relegation fight. One disappointing result doesn't undo the great work Silva and the team are doing.

I agree with all of that and also share your confidence, moving forward.

Just one slight change - the pickford mistake, is no longer freak.

 

[Kellfire]

Tashy, stop the victim status about poor Pep. He didn’t get widely slated for getting rid of Hart - most people knew it was the right thing to do. The mistake was replacing him with Bravo.