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IMO he isnt a top 3 player in the PL. So couldnt be top 5 in the world, so i think thats a bit of a bold claim.
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IMO he isnt a top 3 player in the PL. So couldnt be top 5 in the world, so i think thats a bit of a bold claim.
Dan2501
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Hazard's awesome but wouldn't be ahead of KDB, Salah, Kane or Kante in the PL for me, so there's no chance he's top 5 in the world. Which 6 of these is he ahead of - Ronaldo, Messi, Modric, Neymar, Mbappe, De Bruyne, Salah, Kane, Kante and Suarez?
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1. We weren't talking about Spurs, we were talking about why I think Chelsea will finish 6th. It's not related to Spurs. Chelsea board normally don't give a toss about 'developing the team' either, they usually just appoint someone they think will bring immediate trophies, and then sack them if they don't manage it.
2. He could be good yeah. Hopefully he has a tough mental attitude, because everyone will be using that transfer fee as a stick to beat him with if he's not instantly great.
3. Desperate was exaggerating, but he did appear to want to leave. It's a question of how he applies himself now. As I said, I think his attitude is usually good actually, so I'm sure he'll still be good for you. It's just that if he isn't, you'll be in trouble as there's not many other sources of goals at the minute.
4. Players generally aren't happy with Europa and League Cup games. I think RLC for example deserves more or he'll be looking to leave.
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Yes Courtois has been brilliant when he returned from Atletico, but not last season when his performances compared to previous ones dipped and which coincided with the increased level of interest from Madrid. How can it be sour grapes under-playing his performances? He's been brilliant for Chelsea but wanted to go - I think he said for family reasons too - so fine, the club did the right thing letting him go. Not bitter about it at all. And as for the age gap between Kepa and Courtois - we've bought a younger keeper so should get longer out of him........provided he stays for a lengthy period.
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I must say, he was United's stand out player during pre-season.
Orikoru
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Half their players weren't even there though. One of many things Jose was moaning about.
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Bearing in mind he's been playing for longer and more consistently at the top level - with the trophies to match - then he's above De Bruyne, Salah, Kane, and Mbappe. Now if those 4 again have better seasons than last then fine, you can argue he's not above them. And I would say he's better than Modric, and on a par with Suarez. IMHO only Ronaldo, Messi and Neymar are genuinely above Hazard.
Jates12
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Please, this is probably the worst form of bias. Dont get me wrong now, hazard is a wonderful player but Suarez and kane have scored over 100 goals each in the last 4 seasons. (164 in the last 6 for suarez) if that isnt consistency im not sure what is. Modric has been part of winning 4 champions leagues in the last 5 years and helped his team reach the final of the WC. Id probably even say that Alexis Sanchez is better than hazard.
Oh and KDB is the best midfield player in the world.
Dan2501
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Hazard better than Luka Modric? This one I struggle with. Modric is the best midfielder in the world, was the best player at the World Cup, has been in FIFA's Team of the Year the past 3 years, UEFA's the past 2, has won a La Liga and 4 Champions Leagues.
Also - for reference, Salah scored the same amount of league goals last season as Hazard has the last 3 combined.
Also - for reference, Salah scored the same amount of league goals last season as Hazard has the last 3 combined.
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1. OK. But the approach Chelsea have taken with the majority of their managers - whilst absolutely ridiculous - has ultimately been successful. And of course the Chelsea board care about 'developing the team' - but this has generally been buying rather than investing in youth, despite the fact we've got one of the best youth set-ups in Europe. I would love us to appoint a manager who puts faith in youth first and foremost. But at the moment we don't have an owner who operates like that. Personally I would've loved to have seen Poch at Chelsea.
2. Like every player with a huge price tag, the expectations and pressure is greater. From my experience GKs usually are pretty tough - anyway we'll see.
3. Indeed - a big season for Hazard given his performances at the World Cup. If he does indeed stay this season then I believe it will be his last at Chelsea and therefore hope he goes out in style. And it may be that Sarri's preferred style will suit Morata more than Conte's - big season for him though.
4. It's all about how you manage the players in your squad. But RL-C does deserve his chance, which is why I think it will be Drinkwater and Bakayoko going out on loan rather than him. The player I do want to see more of though is Hudson-Odoi.
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It's all about opinions Dan - you don't agree with mine; I don't agree with yours but there we go.
As for Salah - yes he had an amazing return to the Premiership last season and if he does that again this season, and the next, and the one after that then fine - you can say he's a better player. But by your same analogy of Modric and Hazard, then given awards won etc then Hazard is better than Salah.
Hazard the 4th best player in the world?!! hahahahahahahahahahaha
Shut the thread down, this place has gone.
Shut the thread down, this place has gone.
Orikoru
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Modric & De Bruyne are definitely better than Hazard. I want to say Kane is as well, but as a Spurs fan I can't say that without bias. I rate Hazard above Salah for now though, as Salah could yet be a one season wonder. He's probably edged above Suarez now too, as I think Suarez is not quite at the level now that he was at his peak. I will concede I'm not watching Suarez every week though.
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Spurs could be the first team to not make a single signing in a summer transfer window since they were introduced in 2003.
Orikoru
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Is that true? Haha. That's incredible tbh. Given that we've not sold anyone yet with an hour to go I actually don't mind at all. It could be a masterstroke - continuity and all that!
Have Southampton signed a striker or are they going with last year's scoring machines? I know there are a few Saints fans on here, what's happening?
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Nothing on the transfer blog I'm following. Just one reason I reckon they're going down.
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Looks like Southampton have submitted papers for Ings transfer - if that happens i wish him well and really hope he is success for them
Everton get three just before the deadline - Andre Gomes , Mina and Bernard - seems he has hit his head - said that Everton “historically is the fourth most successful club in England ( think they are about 7th )
West Ham get another in Sánchez
Fulham get Bryan who is very good and another GK
Man Utd didn’t get their defender and Spurs got no one
Everton get three just before the deadline - Andre Gomes , Mina and Bernard - seems he has hit his head - said that Everton “historically is the fourth most successful club in England ( think they are about 7th )
West Ham get another in Sánchez
Fulham get Bryan who is very good and another GK
Man Utd didn’t get their defender and Spurs got no one
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I’m disappointed to see Zouma possibly go on loan to Everton, I really rate/rated him, but obviously not sure how well he’s still recovered from his injury, although he seemed to cope well at Stoke. Is he another Essien?
If he is fit and fully recovered and is back to the player we saw at Chelsea, then I thought he was always going to be JT’s replacement and partner Christianson.
If he is fit and fully recovered and is back to the player we saw at Chelsea, then I thought he was always going to be JT’s replacement and partner Christianson.
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And what are the other reasons?
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