And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Orikoru]

Well, I am beginning to think there may be a few Green Jersey Union members posting on this forum ...

Not quite but I'm a defender - I would expect to be allowed to clear the ball at waist height, and if the attacker who is closing me down runs into my boot as I'm bringing it back down, I would probably apologise to him for catching him but I would certainly not expect to be sent off, in fact if a free kick was given I'd be a bit miffed.

 

[PJ87]

Decent article on West Ham: https://www.football365.com/news/why-have-west-ham-still-not-solved-their-midfield-problem

Maybe PaulJames shouldn't read it, might be telling you things you already know. Still not sure why Obiang isn't getting a game.

Rice plays there for Ireland and did for Chelsea youth
Obiang is class should be playing

Noble is awful. Worst player in our squad . Been carrying him for about 3 seasons

 

[Orikoru]

Rice plays there for Ireland and did for Chelsea youth
Obiang is class should be playing

Noble is awful. Worst player in our squad . Been carrying him for about 3 seasons

No arguments here! I've always disliked Noble, but then I'm a Spurs fan - I thought all the Hammers loved him. I had figured Wilshere would be his direct replacement, rather than play alongside him.

 

[PJ87]

No arguments here! I've always disliked Noble, but then I'm a Spurs fan - I thought all the Hammers loved him. I had figured Wilshere would be his direct replacement, rather than play alongside him.

When we signed Jack a photo was put up of the pair and someone commented on Twitter “it’s like when you get a new dog a year before your dog dies”

Spot on.

Replacement.

Noble offers the team very little. He’s a terrible leader. Making him captain has held us back past 4 seasons. Means you have to start him all the time when we have better players

If he wasn’t born in Canning Town I doubt he would have even 100 appearances

 

[MegaSteve]

Not quite but I'm a defender - I would expect to be allowed to clear the ball at waist height, and if the attacker who is closing me down runs into my boot as I'm bringing it back down, I would probably apologise to him for catching him but I would certainly not expect to be sent off, in fact if a free kick was given I'd be a bit miffed.

With all due respect there's a bit of a chasm of difference between Sunday morning leagues and the Prem...
The tackles made by Jagielka and Vardy wouldn't have even raised an eyebrow outside of the top tier...
Might have started a 'handbags' session mind...
There is now meant to be a 'duty of care' aspect in the manner rules are applied...
As I've already noted previously genuinely feel GK's seemed to get excused from that...

Back in the day if a defender didn't leave some stud marks on the opposition he'd have been in trouble with management...
Game is meant to have moved on from that...

Be interesting to see what gets said when the decision goes the other way in a similar circumstance...

 

[sam85]

Absolutely convinced some people on this forum have no idea about football.

😂😂 😂 this is brilliant

 

[Jensen]

What Pickford should have done is ensure his actions don’t harm the player - being accidental doesn’t stop it being dangerous - he could have chested the ball then if Ings made contact the foul would have been given - s:

Sorry, but that's rubbish. If Pickford had chested the ball he runs the risk of getting clattered big time. Secondly, he runs the risk of losing possession and conceding a goal.

 

[Tashyboy]

Any qualified referees on here who can give an opinion?

Ave done the odd under 10's games as ref and let me tell you it was brutal. Some of the mothers of them kids Lordy Lordy. Prem league refs have it easy. So with me qualifications as a bona fida ref. Both Pickford and Vardy deserved a red.

 

[Tashyboy]

What Pickford should have done is ensure his actions don’t harm the player - being accidental doesn’t stop it being dangerous - he could have chested the ball then if Ings made contact the foul would have been given - Pickford kicked a high ball and his follow through put studs on the back of a player causing injury , if Pickford can’t clear it without having his studs high then he risks a dangerous tackle - two outfield players doing the same and it’s a red card all day


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Yep he is control and certainly not reckless at all

even though that is a milli second photo it does endorse that it is a deffo red card and a retrospective decision should be taken. Why, I have never ever seen a ball kicked like that, if Pickford had kicked it like that it has gone back over his head. Studs are up end of, and if that is an outfield player he has choice of the best shower and can bend over for the soap without a single worry.

 

[Tashyboy]

Well quite simply hes flying through the air,try it mate i think you might see your out of control.
Imo he extends his leg which is quite easy to do.

As i said ive actually played football

PJ, al say this again coz me last comment on this went Uncommented on, what is the differance between a player who has both feet off the ground when going for a tackle and a goalie who has both feet off the floor when kicking a ball. Nothing. If ones a red, then so is the other.

 

[Tashyboy]

I raised this about 5 pages ago but I reckon I must be on a whole load of people's ignore list as it was not picked up . It is not intelligent from Ings.

If Ings was playing for me and not gone for it, he would be on the bus midweek playing against Rochdale U 16's

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry, but that's rubbish. If Pickford had chested the ball he runs the risk of getting clattered big time. Secondly, he runs the risk of losing possession and conceding a goal.

Then he made the poor choice to rush out and clear it - just because the striker may nick the ball off him doesn’t mean he is entitled to hit a bouncing ball with the chance of ending up his foot being in a high dangerous position - if it was a defender he would have been sent off for a reckless dangerous tackle - if that was VVD on Harry Kane for example then the screams would be for VVD to be red carded - it doesn’t matter “what would have happened if” - the GK still isn’t entitled to have his foot high and in a dangerous position and clearly not in control of where he foot will go after the ball is cleared

 

[Deleted member 16999]

PJ, al say this again coz me last comment on this went Uncommented on, what is the differance between a player who has both feet off the ground when going for a tackle and a goalie who has both feet off the floor when kicking a ball. Nothing. If ones a red, then so is the other.

Pickford wasn’t tackling anybody he was clearing the ball, from what you’ve posted you’re saying you’ve never seen a keeper leave the box to clear the ball?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Sometimes you know you're going to get there second but you can 'pull' a foul by putting yourself in harm's way. I've done it on occasion and won a free kick. Nowt wrong with it in that respect.

Eh? “Pull” a foul ? You mean like forwards do in the box to win a penalty and this forum goes into meltdown about deliberating cheating or are you saying cheating is ok?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Well quite simply hes flying through the air,try it mate i think you might see your out of control.
Imo he extends his leg which is quite easy to do.

As i said ive actually played football

Did he lose control on contact with the ball or on take off?
If he’s extended his leg that is the 2nd motion I’m on about and would be controlled and deliberate and is a red.
I’d also argue a keeper is never out of control flying through the air as that’s his job and he is propelling himself unless they are knocked into or knock into something else.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If Ings was playing for me and not gone for it, he would be on the bus midweek playing against Rochdale U 16's

I maintain that he wasn't close enough to warrant going for it. It was a pointless challenge that he was never going to win. 50-50 is a different matter but I didn't see it that way.

 

[TheDiablo]

So is Ings in control at the point of impact? 2 feet off the ground, not looking where he is going. Could have clattered into Pickford and killed him. Reckless if you ask me. I hope he gets a 3 game ban too. Oh, and everyone who jumped for a header this weekend.

 

[Liverbirdie]

What Pickford should have done is ensure his actions don’t harm the player - being accidental doesn’t stop it being dangerous - he could have chested the ball then if Ings made contact the foul would have been given - Pickford kicked a high ball and his follow through put studs on the back of a player causing injury , if Pickford can’t clear it without having his studs high then he risks a dangerous tackle - two outfield players doing the same and it’s a red card all day


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Yep he is control and certainly not reckless at all

Dunno, Ings's back could have easily seen Pickfords boot lose a stud, or two.:rofl:

 

[Liverbirdie]

Whats the fall out between Palace and their "ultras" section. The Echo is saying "[FONT=&quot]Howdy from Selhurst Park, a place where it might get loud.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Or perhaps not as loud as normal, given the stand-off between the Palace ‘ultras’ and the club that means their usual singing section won’t be here tonight. At least not all sat together at any rate."[/FONT]

 

[Imurg]

Just seen MOTD re-run...
How does Kennedy not get sent off for swinging a kick at a Cardiff player right under the nose of the ref..?

Ref missed it. He will get a retrospective ban.

It would appear not....
That's it - I'm done with football.