Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Such as giving yourself a putt rather than waiting for it to be given by your opponent?
I'd win mor matches if we could do that
Against the spirit of the game?
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Such as giving yourself a putt rather than waiting for it to be given by your opponent?
I'd win mor matches if we could do that
Dasit
Tour Rookie
lol scumbag does sound quite strong
different people have different level of competitiveness even in friendlies
different people have different level of competitiveness even in friendlies
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Seems to me that "perception" plays a big part in this thread. I watched the video a couple of times, and my perception was that Shepherd says "l didn't concede" more in puzzlement than anything else.
And although you don't see it, my thought is that she did try to concede the putt because the edit jumps to the referee saying "can't concede in retrospect" (or at least something very similar).
Overall, Moon made a very silly mistake which cost her. Everyone does it at some stage - but not usually for such high stakes.
And although you don't see it, my thought is that she did try to concede the putt because the edit jumps to the referee saying "can't concede in retrospect" (or at least something very similar).
Overall, Moon made a very silly mistake which cost her. Everyone does it at some stage - but not usually for such high stakes.
wrighty1874
Journeyman Pro
If they miss then you're right to make them putt.
Green Bay Hacker
Journeyman Pro
These 'new' bunker rules are what I would describe as 'against the spirit of the game'. Even though they said Chapell's banter with Hofman was good natured between friends you could tell what he really thought of the ruling.
Agreed Green Bay. He just kept shuffling his feet deeper until he hit rock bottom. The pundit back in the Sky studio had to think really hard to avoid saying cheating. I'm pleased he muffed his next shot.
Green Bay Hacker
Journeyman Pro
As they said, if he had a good lie then it would have been played. This rule needs changing as it's being abused.
Good to see Hoffman didn't win last night. Also encouraging that Poulter is continuing his good form.
lukeysafc100
Head Pro
It's very interesting - because I think moon literally went to fast and didn't give shepherd enough time to say it was good. Moon won't make that mistake again I'm sure.
Not against the spirit at all - end of day - its matchplay and you've got to beat your opponent!
Not against the spirit at all - end of day - its matchplay and you've got to beat your opponent!
Jates12
Challenge Tour Pro
In my opinion, Moon shouldnt of assumed, she messed up and paid the price for it. Live and learn. Some people on this thread have gone miles away from the point. She dragged the put back before it was given (And at that stage of the game i would of made her hole it too) Hole Lost. Move on.
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The 'spirit of the game' is different between strokeplay and matchplay. You cannot ignore an infringement in strokeplay because it affects everyone else in the field but in matchplay it is just you and your opponent, hence the ability to give putts etc.
Agreed, Moon was wrong to assume the putt would be given but seeing as it was only a few inches I'm 99.9% sure Shepherd would have conceded it but she saw an opportunity (which she could have let go) to claim the hole and move on to extra holes. Poor form by Shepherd, comes across as a win by any possible means scenario to me.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
It was her coach who told her to say she hadn't given that putt.
Jates12
Challenge Tour Pro
I disagree that its poor form. Whats wrong with wanting to win? She hasnt cheated? She hasnt broken a rule? She has won within the rules. No issues or complaints from me.
I liken this scenario to when Jos Buttler was run out by the bowler backing up, he had a chance, ignored it and was given out, his own fault and an opportunity was taken to get rid of a dangerous player. Break the rules and you pay the price imo.
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Nothing wrong with wanting to win, that is the point of entering a competition in the first place. Seems you and I have different ideas about sportsmanship.
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
Whats with all the condemnation for Shepherd????
She isn't the one who was silly, it was Moon! It's really that simple.
Shepherd did absolutely nothing wrong, Moon did. That's matchplay.
She wont be doing that again I'm sure.
She isn't the one who was silly, it was Moon! It's really that simple.
Shepherd did absolutely nothing wrong, Moon did. That's matchplay.
She wont be doing that again I'm sure.
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The condemnation comes because she could have walked away and conceded a putt of a couple of inches but she decided to call a penalty instead. I would class it as winning dirty
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
The condemnation comes because she could have walked away and conceded a putt of a couple of inches but she decided to call a penalty instead. I would class it as winning dirty
She didn't call the penalty. You can see she tried to concede after the fact but the ref wouldn't let her.
As for winning dirty??!!? There is no such thing. There is winning. She won. Only a sore loser would claim anything else.
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
Not calling you a sore loser btw, you didn't lose the match ;-)
GreggerKBR
Head Pro
I wondered why this thread was titled "against spirit of the game". Now I get it.
Some people have a hard time accepting the rules will penalise you if you make a mistake.
It's really quite simple, you cannot touch a ball in motion! That was the ruling!!!!
Nothing to do with concession, it looks it was but it was not!
Facts are being ignored because emotions and sympathies are coming out - that's human, understandable.
Separate to that, putting the ball in the hole is what is required to complete a hole, so you'll be expected to make a stroke.
Your opponent may concede it - that's a bonus.
If they don't - then you go ahead and make your stroke, get it in hole, no questions, nothing to do with "spirit of the game or sportsmanship". Come on - so pathetic.
Shaking someone's hand, being polite, being honest - that's being a sporting person.
Moon had a "head fart" as someone called it earlier. It's a shame but that really is the end of it.
I still stand by Suzanne Peterson as well - think I was in the minority on that!
Some people have a hard time accepting the rules will penalise you if you make a mistake.
It's really quite simple, you cannot touch a ball in motion! That was the ruling!!!!
Nothing to do with concession, it looks it was but it was not!
Facts are being ignored because emotions and sympathies are coming out - that's human, understandable.
Separate to that, putting the ball in the hole is what is required to complete a hole, so you'll be expected to make a stroke.
Your opponent may concede it - that's a bonus.
If they don't - then you go ahead and make your stroke, get it in hole, no questions, nothing to do with "spirit of the game or sportsmanship". Come on - so pathetic.
Shaking someone's hand, being polite, being honest - that's being a sporting person.
Moon had a "head fart" as someone called it earlier. It's a shame but that really is the end of it.
I still stand by Suzanne Peterson as well - think I was in the minority on that!
