4:15hr is actually a pretty reasonable pace of play for our group

[delc]

Yet I have seen plenty arthritic old seniors hold up the whole course on many occasion - even this Saturday a three ball decided to hold up the whole course - all seniors

I'm surprised that they were playing on a Saturday, as most of ours are 5-day members. Did they have any particular infirmities that slowed them down? Play on our course can be pretty slow on Saturday and Sunday mornings when there are hardly any seniors to blame! I am a 7 day member by the way, but unless it's a comp, I prefer to play later in the afternoon when the course has quietened down and the queues at every tee have gone. Hardly ever get these problems in the week, even though the majority of players then are retired seniors!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You would think that low handicappers ought to be faster because they take fewer shots, but that is not always the case. Higher handicappers in the Rabbits category can be a bit slow because they take more shots, but that is not always true either. There are slow and fast players in all categories, but the problem is that the pace of play is set by the slowest players! :mmm:

So basically handicaps have no connection to the pace of play - well we got there in the end :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm surprised that they were playing on a Saturday, as most of ours are 5-day members. Did they have any particular infirmities that slowed them down? Play on our course can be pretty slow on Saturday and Sunday mornings when there are hardly any seniors to blame! I am a 7 day member by the way, but unless it's a comp, I prefer to play later in the afternoon when the course has quietened down and the queues at every tee have gone. Hardly ever get these problems in the week, even though the majority of players then are retired seniors!

They are just slow

Some of the slowest In our club are some of the senior members who also play during the week

The previous seniors captain was slow and the current one is even slower.

Seen plenty of the 3 ball senior groups hold up 4 balls.

The slowest of the lot so a senior who refuses to let people through - even in a 2 ball he holds 4 balls up. People start to check he hasn't fallen asleep over the ball. Another senior has been told to only play in medals after 10 after he held up the whole field a couple of times

 

[HawkeyeMS]

You would think that low handicappers ought to be faster because they take fewer shots, but that is not always the case. Higher handicappers in the Rabbits category can be a bit slow because they take more shots, but that is not always true either. There are slow and fast players in all categories, but the problem is that the pace of play is set by the slowest players! :mmm:

What does that have to do with my post

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So basically handicaps have no connection to the pace of play - well we got there in the end :thup:

Where there will be an obvious connection is through the attitude of the individual player between shots. Clearly a high handicap player hits the ball more times than a low handicap player. Therefore it is clear that the high handicapper who is less brisk over his shot assessment and execution than his same handicap companion, then the former will be slower in playing his shots than the latter. And similarly the high handicapper who takes the same length of time over his shots as the low handicapper will be slower in respect of his shot playing. It is therefore incumbent upon the high handicapper to ensure that his overall pace on the course between shots is such that he keeps up with the low handicapper. And the player who takes longer over his shots has to be relatively brisker between shots. It is just a fact of golfing life that if you are going to hit the ball a lot of times then you are going to have less time between shots to keep up with a lower handicap player. But that should not be an issue.