2022 World Cup.

fundy said:
Its not about rivalling him as such but about having a back up who is integrated into the side and system if Kane gets injured, or being valuable as a sub later in games, seeing how they fit into the side, whether they can step up to international football etc

Weve completely pigeon holed ourselves into Kane playing every minute of every game, even when clearly out on his feet, because we dont have another tried and tested option because hes played every game for several years, many of which he shouldve been nowhere near for the long term benefit of the squad and side
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Totally agree.
It leads me to think is GS asking him to drop this deep, or does Kane just take it upon himself.
We don’t have a Son to get past him and with GS playing two holding midfield players most of the time Kane being so deep leaves us with an empty penalty area most of the time.
Bellingham did get up there a few times so maybe in time this might work.
I am sure the op CBs love seeing Kane on the halfway line.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Totally agree.
It leads me to think is GS asking him to drop this deep, or does Kane just take it upon himself.
We don’t have a Son to get past him and with GS playing two holding midfield players most of the time Kane being so deep leaves us with an empty penalty area most of the time.
Bellingham did get up there a few times so maybe in time this might work.
I am sure the op CBs love seeing Kane on the halfway line.
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Kane spent the entire of the season before last dropping deep auditioning for peps city team as he loves a striker to bring others into the game

Didn't get the move and seems to Prefer playing like this now
 
pauljames87 said:
Kane spent the entire of the season before last dropping deep auditioning for peps city team as he loves a striker to bring others into the game

Didn't get the move and seems to Prefer playing like this now
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Kane has played this way for like 6 years at least. When Dele Alli was good for us, he was playing as an advanced number 10 making runs off of Kane when he dropped deep. He didn't start doing it to try and woo Pep. ??
 
Orikoru said:
International football is making the best of what you have, you can't exactly sign new players. Kane happens to be our best forward by a mile, so you have to play to his strengths, or put a vastly inferior player in his place. If we still had a prime Vardy knocking about that would be a viable alternative, but Wilson is only a half decent impersonation of Vardy, Toney is not bad but unproven, and the other options are nowhere near it. And if England had a Heung-Min Son to play off Kane no one would mind!
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He's a good striker but I think he's even better in a support role. He has great vision when it comes to providing a killer final pass - it's just rarely been used in an England team. Over the coming years he could move into an attacking midfield position and feed the younger guys. He's already pretty good at tracking back when he needs to.
 
RichA said:
He's a good striker but I think he's even better in a support role. He has great vision when it comes to providing a killer final pass - it's just rarely been used in an England team. Over the coming years he could move into an attacking midfield position and feed the younger guys. He's already pretty good at tracking back when he needs to.
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I think on the odd occasion Mourinho actually played him there with Son as the central striker. I'm not against it at all.
 
Orikoru said:
Kane has played this way for like 6 years at least. When Dele Alli was good for us, he was playing as an advanced number 10 making runs off of Kane when he dropped deep. He didn't start doing it to try and woo Pep. ??
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More so in that season for sure ... He used to play in the box
 
I take it that England are equal with Brazil, Portugal and Holland.

Not as good as France, Argentina, Croatia and Morocco.

But much better than Spain, Belgium, Germany and ... er ... Italy. Let those countries do the moaning about their players and manager.

Just like golf - its the scores that count - not a perception of how good the players are.

Morocco have got past Belgium, Spain and Portugal. I'd love to see them to add France to that tally.
 
Voyager EMH said:
I take it that England are equal with Brazil, Portugal and Holland.

Not as good as France, Argentina, Croatia and Morocco.

But much better than Spain, Belgium, Germany and ... er ... Italy. Let those countries do the moaning about their players and manager.

Just like golf - its the scores that count - not a perception of how good the players are.

Morocco have got past Belgium, Spain and Portugal. I'd love to see them to add France to that tally.
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A Morocco World Cup win would be truly spectacular. A France Argentina final wouldn't be though. Would be the all time biggest shock if Morocco won it I think, beyond Greece & Denmark winning the Euros.
 
Voyager EMH said:
I take it that England are equal with Brazil, Portugal and Holland.

Not as good as France, Argentina, Croatia and Morocco.

But much better than Spain, Belgium, Germany and ... er ... Italy. Let those countries do the moaning about their players and manager.

Just like golf - its the scores that count - not a perception of how good the players are.

Morocco have got past Belgium, Spain and Portugal. I'd love to see them to add France to that tally.
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I like it that Morocco have beaten both their northern European neighbours, Spain and Portugal. Also beaten Belgium. If they can beat France, they've pretty much conquered the mainland of Western Europe.
 
Orikoru said:
Pretty clear we don't want to sell him and never have.
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Every single player is for sale at the right price as they are assets. If a continental team came in for him with the right bid then it would be bon voyage...money in the bank like they did with Bale. Over £100M was bandied about as a valuation but that would now be much much lower.

So maybe his lesser performance at this WC means that he is more likely to stay at Tottenham now?
 
Captainron said:
Every single player is for sale at the right price as they are assets. If a continental team came in for him with the right bid then it would be bon voyage...money in the bank like they did with Bale. Over £100M was bandied about as a valuation but that would now be much much lower.

So maybe his lesser performance at this WC means that he is more likely to stay at Tottenham now?
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Who knows? Will the disappointment spur (pardon the pun) him on to try and get his potential last chance of a lucrative move. to a club more likely to win trophies than Spurs? Or, will he decide that he will just settle down at Spurs, hope for a minimum of 2 more England tournaments?

As far as I understand it, the biggest obstacle in Kane getting his move last time was the length of contract he signed, with no buy out clause (or if there was, it must have been mega high?), and so Spurs held all the cards, and just said a firm No. Spurs grip on Harry Kane will get weaker and weaker, unless he decides to sign another contract extension with no clauses giving him realistic ways out.

I think Kane is an incredible player. I would have thought opposing defenders would much rather he just stayed in and around the box, as it would be easier to mark him. Sure, if he gets chances, he can be clinical, but he'd need a team around him to create those chances. England don't seem like a team that just fire in crosses, or constantly looking for that one player in the box to score their goals. They have numerous attacking players who can score goals, and therefore they can share the burden of getting on the score sheet. The fact Kane can drop deep and play pivotal roles in the build up is a crucial ingredient to England and the players they have, and defenders must find it really tough try and stop it.

So, I'm sure there would be plenty of top clubs / managers who would absolutely love to have Kane in their team. And, if he becomes available at a good price, then he is bound to get offers. So, unless Spurs start winning the league / champions league asap, I can personally see him going to try a new challenge, freshen things up, keep on his toes.
 
Kane will prob need to make a choice this summer - stay and be a one man club , prob be the clubs top goalscorer but win nothing

Or take the move to a Bayern Munich etc and win trophies
 
Captainron said:
Every single player is for sale at the right price as they are assets. If a continental team came in for him with the right bid then it would be bon voyage...money in the bank like they did with Bale. Over £100M was bandied about as a valuation but that would now be much much lower.

So maybe his lesser performance at this WC means that he is more likely to stay at Tottenham now?
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We already rejected City when they wouldn't go as high as £100m so why would we change tact and flog him for less when we obviously want to keep him? I have no idea what you're talking about.

I already felt once City were out of the running that his options were limited anyway. I feel he wants to stay in England and beat the Shearer Prem record, but City won't be interested, I can't see Liverpool being interested really, we would likely refuse to sell to Arsenal or Chelsea and I can't see him jumping ship to them. That does leave Man Utd as the only viable option, I don't know whether he'd really see them as more likely to win a trophy than us at this stage.

Either way none of this is affected by him missing one penalty in the World Cup. :unsure:

Edit: What do you mean lesser performance by the way? For goals + assists only two people have more than him, Mbappe & Messi. He was a key player for England, all of our attacks went through him at some point.
 
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