2021 Professional Golf Thread

[Orikoru]

If we're talking home-grown cars, Rory's like a DeLorean at the moment... Looks great but the build quality ain't that reliable ...

And he probably wishes he could go back in time as well.

 

[Imurg]

Play at Sawgrass utilised every minute of available light yesterday
There were no weather delays
And they still couldn't get all the players round - some have got 4 holes to play today
Thats the best part of an hour or more.
Lots of high scores which means more shots which means more PSRs but have they just got too many playing?
If they did get a weather delay, even a couple of hours, they'd be totally screwed.

 

[Zig]

I share your frustration ?

As you say, he's a phenomenal golfer ?️, all the criticism is just utter frustration that we're not watching him achieve what he should be. He just seems to fall into the "comfortable top 10" every week, so whilst for most golfers this would be great, for Rory it feels like failure because he's so good.

I feel a whole reset is needed, new coach, new caddy with more desire etc. I'm sure he can give Butch a ring....

I agree - he's crying out for the things you mention. With a prime Butch Harmon coaching him he'd have doubled his major tally by now.

And here's the thing: every golf fan I know finds him really likeable, desperately wants him to return to his best, and - despite his impressive major haul - feels there so much more he could have won.

FWIW - I think he's attempted to take some pressure off himself these last few years by talking about the 'long career' he's got, getting better gradually, plenty of time to win more majors. He also had a spell where he tried to downplay the majors, saying he was treating them like regular tour events etc. Clearly they're not, and he's now gone quite a while without winning one.

The flip side, when he does treat them as a big deal, such as the Open at Protrush, then we all saw the result on the opening hole/first day.

That said, when he's on song, and all of his game is going well, he can lap the field - he's that good. I hope I'm wrong, but his 'golden opportunity' to be the one to beat in majors is fast slipping away

 

[sweaty sock]

Play at Sawgrass utilised every minute of available light yesterday
There were no weather delays
And they still couldn't get all the players round - some have got 4 holes to play today
Thats the best part of an hour or more.
Lots of high scores which means more shots which means more PSRs but have they just got too many playing?
If they did get a weather delay, even a couple of hours, they'd be totally screwed.

If its not a closing statement to the "players are too slow" argument I dont know what is.

But given how pandering the tour is to the players, they're more likely to just reduce the rounds to 14 holes.

 

[Imurg]

If its not a closing statement to the "players are too slow" argument I dont know what is.

But given how pandering the tour is to the players, they're more likely to just reduce the rounds to 14 holes.

They are too slow but they'll play at the pace they're allowed to play at.
The Tour knows how long it takes, if they wanted to speed it up they could but that's a different debate.
Those that haven't finished round 1 are restarting at 7.30 whereas the 2nd round is starting at the normal time of 6.40 or thereabouts.
Good job there's no overlap.
It still means that those in the last groups are not going to finish today
Which means the cut can't be made which means those close to it might have to stick around a day longer than necessary.
It just seems poor planning to have as many players as they have, even with a 2 tee start, and they can't get them all round on a perfect weather day.

 

[PJ87]

...or should that be "needs new engine and a respray?"

Engine management light on

In lump home mode

 

[need_my_wedge]

They mentioned in commentary that has previous caddy JP Fitzgerald was now on Victor Perez's bag, how long ago did that happen? His current caddy doesn't seem to say much, or have a word in his ear when it's going pear shaped...

Was watching his troubles at the 17th yesterday, and after there was an image of him standing there on his own whilst Garcia was getting ready on the next hole I think. Harry was a few yards away staring in the opposite direction. I commented at the time (to no one in particular ) that now was the time he should be talking to Rors to help settle/ reassure/ gee up, give advice whatever. But they just looked like they were ignoring each other. I'm sure that's not the case, we're all on the outside and have no idea about their interaction on/ off the course, but it does come across on TV that the caddy support/ advice is minimal.

Saw the SKY podcast interview with Brad Faxon the other night, that was quite interesting, although he didn't go into any detail regarding Rors (and rightly so).

And here's the thing: every golf fan I know finds him really likeable, desperately wants him to return to his best, and - despite his impressive major haul - feels there so much more he could have won.

I think this is the main thing with his fans, we all know that he is capable of so much more, and get very frustrated when he seemingly implodes

 

[sweaty sock]

They are too slow but they'll play at the pace they're allowed to play at.
The Tour knows how long it takes, if they wanted to speed it up they could but that's a different debate.
Those that haven't finished round 1 are restarting at 7.30 whereas the 2nd round is starting at the normal time of 6.40 or thereabouts.
Good job there's no overlap.
It still means that those in the last groups are not going to finish today
Which means the cut can't be made which means those close to it might have to stick around a day longer than necessary.
It just seems poor planning to have as many players as they have, even with a 2 tee start, and they can't get them all round on a perfect weather day.

True, last tee off is 2:17pm sunset 6:30pm so is going to be tight for a full course of 3 balls.

 

[Slab]

Not an excuse but another factor will be that it is a larger field than usual

 

[srixon 1]

Probably takes 20 mins to play the 17th if they all dump it in the water. That cannot help.

 

[Golfnut1957]

I agree - he's crying out for the things you mention. With a prime Butch Harmon coaching him he'd have doubled his major tally by now.

And here's the thing: every golf fan I know finds him really likeable, desperately wants him to return to his best, and - despite his impressive major haul - feels there so much more he could have won.

FWIW - I think he's attempted to take some pressure off himself these last few years by talking about the 'long career' he's got, getting better gradually, plenty of time to win more majors. He also had a spell where he tried to downplay the majors, saying he was treating them like regular tour events etc. Clearly they're not, and he's now gone quite a while without winning one.

The flip side, when he does treat them as a big deal, such as the Open at Protrush, then we all saw the result on the opening hole/first day.

That said, when he's on song, and all of his game is going well, he can lap the field - he's that good. I hope I'm wrong, but his 'golden opportunity' to be the one to beat in majors is fast slipping away

You have summed it up perfectly I feel.

 

[MarkT]

It might not be the longest par 5 but Bryson just hit an 8-iron to the 16th to follow up his 9-iron on Thursday

 

[need_my_wedge]

Is it just me, or does some of the Players coverage look positively NotHD at times? Some very fuzzy looking footage at times yesterday and today??

 

[Imurg]

Is it just me, or does some of the Players coverage look positively NotHD at times? Some very fuzzy looking footage at times yesterday and today??

I think its the camera angles
As it's first thing the Sun is very low and getting in the lens.
Now its higher ot shouldn't happen..

 

[FELL75]

I thought it was a couple of misty camera lenses first thing in the morning.

That's what I thought. Mind you watching the rerun of the 1987 Sandy Lyle win at TPC was definitely fuzzy ?

 

[USER1999]

Is it just me, or does some of the Players coverage look positively NotHD at times? Some very fuzzy looking footage at times yesterday and today??

Particilarly shots atound the greens. The ball seems to move in steps. I am guessing some of it is in 720, and some 1080. It is definitely not full HD coverage.

 

[USER1999]

The pace of play is excruciating. I would guess it will be well over 5 hour rounds.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why are they not showing the golf ?‍

 

[Beezerk]

Sergio getting back to normal standard ?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Can't quite understand why Rory's caddy is, according to a number of posters, holding him back as apparently he is unable to offer anything beyond being a bag carrier.

On the other hand Lee Westwood is thriving since Helen took the bag.?‍