2020 Professional Golf Thread

Jacko_G said:
Yeah but sadly your Fleetwood choke excuse doesn't hold water when he's already on record saying he didn't hear the shout.

Just a dreadful execution under pressure and as a result handed the tournament on a plate.

As for Azinger. I'll stick with my opinion that he is 100% spot on.
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Choke ?! He didn’t choke but it’s no surprise you calling him a choke. He chased a birdie for a play off and it didn’t come off. I guess it’s no surprise with him being English - sometimes you are beyond obvious.

And going back to your point about “bigger and better” on the PGA -he was more points coming 2nd at the Recent Abu Dhabi champs than he did at the Honda . Also for example the Dunhill links has the same level of points as the Honda. There are lots of events on the PGA tour that aren’t at the top level as well - just like the ET , and the Rolex Series has started to push the ET events at the top level closer.


And just to show how bitter Azinger is

He called Molinari’s win at Bay Hill - the biggest of his career - that was after he won The Open and of course the 5 from 5 in the Ryder Cup
 
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Grant85 said:
That's fine if you think that, but if Fleetwood plays a full schedule on the ET he's playing events in Oman, Victoria, Hong Kong, Denmark, Portugal... etc. a host of 2nd tier events with very few top 50 players, and he'll win his fair share most seasons probably.

Similar if he plays a full schedule on the PGA Tour, he's playing the Fall series as well as a host of smaller events with weaker fields.

As it is he plays across both tours so he's playing the biggest event in the world on any week he tees it up. That's true for most of the top 50, especially those who have European Tour membership to keep going.

The biggest Euro events that these guys play (Rolex series) will probably all be bigger than the Honda in terms of prize money and depth of field.

Ultimately Azinger was making the point to belittle the European Tour and try and exert superiority of US Golf over European Golf. He did it with zero class and actually very little understanding of the Rolex events and the type of fields they attract.
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Rolex making their bigger events far close to the better known US tour events. A lot of the US tour events don't attract stellar fields in the same way the ET ones can sometimes be bereft of the big names. It's obvious why as the top players pick and choose their schedules globally and to ensure they only play a set amount of tournaments. As for Azinger, I think he showed his ignorance. LP nailed it and if he couldn't recognise the Open win alone (you could forgive a US bias toward his RC 5/5 record and Mollywood) then it shows how short sighted and ill informed he is
 
Tommy’s two wins in Abu Dhabi had stronger fields than the Honda, - fact, not opinion
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Choke ?! He didn’t choke but it’s no surprise you calling him a choke. He chased a birdie for a play off and it didn’t come off. I guess it’s no surprise with him being English - sometimes you are beyond obvious.

And going back to your point about “bigger and better” on the PGA -he was more points coming 2nd at the Recent Abu Dhabi champs than he did at the Honda . Also for example the Dunhill links has the same level of points as the Honda. There are lots of events on the PGA tour that aren’t at the top level as well - just like the ET , and the Rolex Series has started to push the ET events at the top level closer.


And just to show how bitter Azinger is

He called Molinari’s win at Bay Hill - the biggest of his career - that was after he won The Open and of course the 5 from 5 in the Ryder Cup
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Oh dear - another pathetic Phil response. Time you went back on the ignore list.
 
JamesR said:
Tommy’s two wins in Abu Dhabi had stronger fields than the Honda, - fact, not opinion
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Where are the majority of the ranking points earned?

What Tour? That Tour is the strongest tour. No it's no buts. It's bigger and stronger and has far greater depth.
 
Tommy will win plenty. He will win in America at some stage. Really consistent golfer.

That swing on 18 was absolutely brutal. Under no circumstances should he have been missing that to the right. The eagle wasn't really on. A sensible miss should have been the order of the day. Live learn and move on.
 
garyinderry said:
Tommy will win plenty. He will win in America at some stage. Really consistent golfer.

That swing on 18 was absolutely brutal. Under no circumstances should he have been missing that to the right. The eagle wasn't really on. A sensible miss should have been the order of the day. Live learn and move on.
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I dont think Elite sportsmen at this level think like that Gary.

He’s believed in a shot that he‘s probably hit 1000’s of times, unfortunately it never came off. I generally don’t think he deserves the criticism he’s getting.

He’ll win a PGA Tour comp and once he wins one he’ll motor on and win many.

He’s a fantastic golfer, brilliant to watch and seems like a really good guy.
 
Stuart_C said:
I dont think Elite sportsmen at this level think like that Gary.

He’s believed in a shot that he‘s probably hit 1000’s of times, unfortunately it never came off. I generally don’t think he deserves the criticism he’s getting.

He’ll win a PGA Tour comp and once he wins one he’ll motor on and win many.

He’s a fantastic golfer, brilliant to watch and seems like a really good guy.
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I think the shot was right. I just think he didnt hit his start line what so ever. Started right went right.
 
garyinderry said:
I think the shot was right. I just think he didnt hit his start line what so ever. Started right went right.
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Looked like he was trying to hit a high cut starting at the left edge of the green and fading in. But it was a horrible slice :eek:

Hope he wins soon in the US
 
Jacko_G said:
Oh dear - another pathetic Phil response. Time you went back on the ignore list.
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How is it pathetic craw - not like you to hide away

It’s clear at times you have a “stronger” opinion of a golfer if they are English - think in the past Westwood and Poulter were in the sights but nothing wrong with a bit of patriotism towards golfers - I’m the same against the US players

I guess that’s what you see as pathetic because the rest of the post was factual
 
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