Your thoughts on this please?

[Dodger]

Winter competition at the weekend at my gaf,it's a stableford that can be played on either day of the weekend,Saturday or Sunday.

Saturday we peg it up and we have both the 14th and 15th greens on temps due to water still lying on the normal greens....14 in particular is a horror story temp and both holes are made tougher due to these temps being in place.

Fast forward to Sunday and I am hearing that all 18 greens were in operation.

Surely 14 and 15th temps should have stayed in place for the whole weekend no??

Next weekend I'm thinking of moving the tees forward for my Sunday game,it appears not to matter if you play a different course to Saturdays......:mmm:

 

[Imurg]

To my mind you can't change the course once the comp has begun.
Simply not fair.
Even if the Temps made it easier it wouldn't have been fair on those playing Sunday.....

1 comp = 1 course.

 

[JustOne]

I agree Dodger.... but what you gonna do about it?

It's a little bit like having the greens cut one day but not the next, or moving the flags.

If we worry too much about these things we'll go grey.. or bald in CrapHacker's case.

Any comp played over 2 days is subject to change, what if it p*ssed down on day 2?

Just go with the flow and stop complaining.. that's what I always do (Yeh, right!)

 

[pbrown7582]

Being a weekend comp it's obviously potentially going to have different weather but the greens and tees should remain in the same place for both days.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

To my mind you can't change the course once the comp has begun.
Simply not fair.
Even if the Temps made it easier it wouldn't have been fair on those playing Sunday.....

1 comp = 1 course.

Wot He Said

Fragger

 

[Dodger]

I agree Dodger.... but what you gonna do about it?

It's a little bit like having the greens cut one day but not the next, or moving the flags.

If we worry too much about these things we'll go grey.. or bald in CrapHacker's case.

Any comp played over 2 days is subject to change, what if it p*ssed down on day 2?

Just go with the flow and stop complaining.. that's what I always do (Yeh, right!)

Greens are not cut over the weekend in winter and you have the choice on a Friday night which day you choose to play the comp......many look at the forecast and if it's to blow harder on the Saturday they play on a Sunday....you can't control the weather but can use it to your advantage if you are savvy enough,them's the choices freely available but playing a course that changes when it isn't supposed to is a bit naughty in my mind.

Genuinely interested in the forum thoughts.....I am not affected by it but I would be well pissed off if I was in the running for the aggregate winter trophy and I had been affected by it.

I just happen to be a stickler for rules and fair play and not the make up rules to hell with anyone attitude that appear to happen at many golf clubs.

 

[bluetoon]

Yep, winter golf sucks, think you just need to roll with the punches.

Our winter greens are a lottery and if yours are similiar you can justifiably feel ripped off.

Best to have a good sulk then forget about it.:thup:

 

[JustOne]

I just happen to be a stickler for rules and fair play and not the make up rules to hell with anyone attitude that appear to happen at many golf clubs.

I am soooooooo with you on this - I think it's disgusting. Like I said though, what can you do, and how far are you prepared to take it?

I voted with my feet and left my old course.. I was going to send them a shirty letter as to why but what's the point? It wasn't really run for true golfers, more the tea and tea-cake brigade and I hated it. Playing h/cap comps on greens where the flag hasn't moved for 4 days is just as bad.

I was going to open a thread about running a golf course properly but SOMEONE (that might be YOU) decided to slate me for it

 

[garyinderry]

i have only ever played on temp greens once. temp greens is you can call it that. there was no seperation from fairway to temp green or shorter cut. just a hole in the ground with a flag. ruined the game tbh! :sbox:




oh, the course should have stayed the same for those in the comp. anyone out for a round should have been allowed to use the now dry green. whoever worked in the shop could have let you know when you paid for the comp. no complaints then.

 

[AuburnWarrior]

I would have said that the temp greens should have stayed - purely from an even playing field perspective. Otherwise you could, as you say, have tee boxes moved, pin positions changed, etc.

Did the CSS change for the two days or was it the same?

 

[Dodger]

I would have said that the temp greens should have stayed - purely from an even playing field perspective. Otherwise you could, as you say, have tee boxes moved, pin positions changed, etc.

Did the CSS change for the two days or was it the same?

No CSS.....despite it being a measured course with a SS everything is a none counter in winter,no reduction or going up......don't even get me started on this point either.:rofl:

 

[AuburnWarrior]

No CSS.....despite it being a measured course with a SS everything is a none counter in winter,no reduction or going up......don't even get me started on this point either.:rofl:

So no-one enters a card, I'm guessing, so it's almost a bounce game?

That's probably why the greens were changed....other than that I can't think of a reason why the course would change in any way.

 

[Foxholer]

That would have certainly made it a non-qualifier.

Social competition. Treat it as such.

Though there is no reason why ALL winter comps should be NQs. Though any temp green with bucket guarantees it's a NQ-er- and if temps (or tees) change overall course length by >100yds, then it's NQ too.

 

[Dodger]

So no-one enters a card, I'm guessing, so it's almost a bounce game?

That's probably why the greens were changed....other than that I can't think of a reason why the course would change in any way.

Cards are indeed handed in.and processed.

Hardly a bounce game,the series winner collects a trophy that holds a great history.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It does seem a tad unfair.

 

[Region3]

Agree. You can do zip about the weather, but at least keep the course the same for all.

Thinking about it the other way round though, the course might have been fine on the Saturday with no temps but then an awful frost Saturday night means that there are a few temps Sunday. I don't see what you could do about that.

 

[USER1999]

The course should be the same for the duration of the comp.

Our management has changed now, but in previous years they have started putting the pins back on when we were half way round. Some played 18 temps, some none. My favourite was playing into the temp on 7, and then the pin being moved 70 yards after our second shots. Class.

 

[Junior]

Course should be the same for the duration of the comp. Got to be fair to the guys on Saturday.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Never ceases to amaze me how clubs do stuff like this. Last year our club moved off temps half way through a comp. some players played the whole course on temps, some half and half and some on the full course - madness

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Never ceases to amaze me how clubs do stuff like this. Last year our club moved off temps half way through a comp. some players played the whole course on temps, some half and half and some on the full course - madness

In the end it was decided to call it null and void and the comp was cancelled. Total farce. In my opinion and I stand to be corrected it the comp is a two day affair then it has to be the same for competitiors on both days and that means whatever course is in play on Saturday remains in place on Sunday irrespective of any changes to conditions