WW3 -All Russia / Ukraine stuff here please-

@AmandaJR from information I have receive today, please ensure that your nephew is no longer using his phone and has destroyed the SIM card. He will need a completely clean phone and local SIM cards.
Russian comms units are able to trace UK,s SIM cards and use them for target locations.

Turning off the phone isn’t enough.

Thanks. I'll try and get the message to him. He said yesterday they were off on a 3 day mission so not sure how much he'd be able to contact. The abandoned hotel they'd been in had been "compromised" so that may be why.
 
RUSSIAN President Vladimir Putin has been humiliated by North Korea's Kim Jong-un who said, "you are too insane for us," according to one source.

Wasn’t sure if this should be in the laughter thread or not
 
Word is that Ukraine have mobilised all of it's reserves, some 200,000 military veterans.

Also, I swear to the almighty that there's so many NLAWS and Javelin's in Ukraine now, that there's actually more anti-armour weapons then there is Ruski armour.
 
Great respect for the Ukrainian emergency services, I'm inspired by the film of their Firefighters in action in such alarming circumstances.
 
Looks like India has been sniveling to Russia offering to take their oil and gas at discount rates. Surely another country that needs a shot across it's bows to warn them of the possible trade consequences their actions could bring.
Not the way to handle it imo! Especially while trying to encourage post-Brexit trade deals.
 
Which narrow-mindedly ignores the potential for UK exports to over 1Bn potential customers!
Nothing narrow minded about a £4.3 billion trade deficit after the UK exporting £7.1 billion. India are the UKs 21 st biggest trade partner. I would suggest if they knew what side their bread was buttered they would be wary of looking to take advantage of the Ukraine situation.
 
Nothing narrow minded about a £4.3 billion trade deficit after the UK exporting £7.1 billion. India are the UKs 21 st biggest trade partner. I would suggest if they knew what side their bread was buttered they would be wary of looking to take advantage of the Ukraine situation.
Oh dear. We're back in the 18th Century!, when England was the biggest bully ruled the waves.
Anyway, back to direct consequences of Russian aggression...
 
Suspect that I am going to take a massive amount of flack for this but I am finding myself in an odd frame of mind at the moment. I am in total condemnation of what Russia is doing, it is abhorrent, but am also becoming concerned for the calls from Ukraine to take actions that will signal the start of a third world war. The world is giving money, supplies and weapons to help out but this is being countered by calls that we are not doing enough, that NATO planes should be in direct conflict wiht the Russians, today that the American people should be demanding that their country enter millitarily. I cannot even begin to undestand how this is for a nation and the horrors that it entails but I cannot see that the answer will ever be to potentially spread the conflict globally, to enter a fight that only ends when either Russia or Europe, or both, are bombed into the ground. Ukraine has garnered a huge amount of global support and I hope that this has not led to an overconfidence and a hard nosed position in any talks based on a false assumption that the military might of the rest of the world will be coming to help if Russia does not retreat.
 
Suspect that I am going to take a massive amount of flack for this but I am finding myself in an odd frame of mind at the moment. I am in total condemnation of what Russia is doing, it is abhorrent, but am also becoming concerned for the calls from Ukraine to take actions that will signal the start of a third world war. The world is giving money, supplies and weapons to help out but this is being countered by calls that we are not doing enough, that NATO planes should be in direct conflict wiht the Russians, today that the American people should be demanding that their country enter millitarily. I cannot even begin to undestand how this is for a nation and the horrors that it entails but I cannot see that the answer will ever be to potentially spread the conflict globally, to enter a fight that only ends when either Russia or Europe, or both, are bombed into the ground. Ukraine has garnered a huge amount of global support and I hope that this has not led to an overconfidence and a hard nosed position in any talks based on a false assumption that the military might of the rest of the world will be coming to help if Russia does not retreat.

I share your concerns. However it seems there is a desire to make progress with talks and a suggestion of an Austrian type solution may be a way forward that would appease all sides. It would need Ukraine to give up their Nato ambition so may still be a stumbling block https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...enskyy-peace-talks-nato-live-updates-12541713
 
I share your concerns. However it seems there is a desire to make progress with talks and a suggestion of an Austrian type solution may be a way forward that would appease all sides. It would need Ukraine to give up their Nato ambition so may still be a stumbling block https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...enskyy-peace-talks-nato-live-updates-12541713

If you look at the wider reporting you will see that the Preseident has already rejected the thought of any Austrian or Swedish model of neutrality.
 
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