WW3 -All Russia / Ukraine stuff here please-

[SocketRocket]

The organisation left behind was more solid.

Weakened both small nation and the union by leaving. Causing unnecessary distractions for Russia to take advantage of the chaos.

Chaos, what Chaos?

Do you mean that trading block which never had a military.

Anyhow we won't go down that road as it's not allowed.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

My Super Mod Powers are picking up veiled political posts, well actually pretty blatant.

Lets not go there please or ill let Patrick loose with his infraction button, then anything could happen

 

[Tashyboy]

I wonder how long Russia have been considering this formal invasion? Last few months, or has it been years in the making?

If it has been years in the making, why now? Strategically, would it have made more sense when the rest of the world was in a panic in the height of the pandemic, rather than now when countries are a lot more stable and starting to return to more normality?

Seems strange the Russians invaded when Boris took away all restrictions. ? looks like Boris should of kept them in place for another 20 years ?

 

[Tashyboy]

A pal posted on face book the other days the natural resources that Ukraine has. Flippin eck it’s rich.

 

[Imurg]

My Super Mod Powers are picking up veiled political posts, well actually pretty blatant.

Lets not go there please or ill let Patrick loose with his infraction button, then anything could happen

As long as it's not a Red button we should be ok.......

 

[Old Skier]

The west lost this when they did nothing over Crimea and the occupation of Eastern Ukraine. The AT weapons sent by the UK will be nothing more than a pin prick . Most of the Russian troops have come from the Far East of Russia and as far as Putin is concerned, expendable.
Im sure the Ukraine was extremely grateful for the 5000 helmets and the mobile hospital equipment sent by Germany. France have kindly offered accommodation for Biden and Putin to take tea in.

 

[greenone]

A pal posted on face book the other days the natural resources that Ukraine has. Flippin eck it’s rich.

Pales into insignificance compared to Siberia.

 

[IanM]

France have just surrendered.

 

[Old Skier]

Are we allowed to discuss mods ?

Germans have pulled the plug on Nordstream ?

Only Nordstream2, which isn’t operating yet, they any others getting gas via Nordstream1

 

[Old Skier]

As things stand Russia doesn’t have that many borders with NATO.

2, Estonia and Latvia both with 2 heavy armored brigades that have been training for several months along with a reserve division in Poland.

 

[Tashyboy]

Pales into insignificance compared to Siberia.

Impressive none the less.

Copied from another site.

For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “
This is why Ukraine matters.
It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population
of over 40 million - more than Poland.
Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)
Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.
Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).
Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.

found the post and copied. ?

 

[RichA]

Russia have always played games and pushed their adversaries. This probably isn't even about Ukraine. It'll be a means to a political end that we in the west haven't even dreamed of yet.
The move on Ukraine is like Kane running into the middle of the box and dragging the defenders with him. Who's watching Son sneaking up on the back post?

 

[Robster59]

If anyone is watching the "Rise of the Nazis" series on BBC 2, some of the Nazi's push for territory, and how they justify it, are quite stark.
I would imagine Russia have been subversively promoting unrest in these areas for some time to give them a "justification" (and I use that word advisedly) for going into the Ukraine.
The issue is that if you have one man in power, and he has such power that he controls the media, controls the country and suppresses any unrest, then megalomania settles in. They believe they are untouchable and all their decisions are right and justified. I think that's part of the reason why the Americans only allow a President two terms. Last one to have three was Roosevelt.

 

[DanFST]

My Lithuanian friend is very happy they are part of NATO.

I can't use her words for the Russians.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

All I am thinking is this is how it started when I saw Threads in school. That ended well

 

[RichA]

All I am thinking is this is how it started when I saw Threads in school. That ended well

That's a sleepless night for anyone under the age of 50 who doesn't know what you're on about and Googles it.
...and now I'm thinking about "The Bedford Incident" too.

 

[Swango1980]

Europe was as divided as I remember after Brexit. Ironically, they may be becoming more United again with a common goal against Russia. Every cloud...

 

[Foxholer]

...I think that's part of the reason why the Americans only allow a President two terms. Last one to have three was Roosevelt.

Roosevelt actually won a 4th term, though died in office.

 

[Robster59]

Roosevelt actually won a 4th term, though died in office.

I stand corrected ?

 

[drdel]

The west lost this when they did nothing over Crimea and the occupation of Eastern Ukraine. The AT weapons sent by the UK will be nothing more than a pin prick . Most of the Russian troops have come from the Far East of Russia and as far as Putin is concerned, expendable.
Im sure the Ukraine was extremely grateful for the 5000 helmets and the mobile hospital equipment sent by Germany. France have kindly offered accommodation for Biden and Putin to take tea in.

Russia has been planning a resurgence of the USSR 2 for 40 years and Crimea was just a prod to test NATO.