World Cup Russia 2018

[Orikoru]

No Lallana which I think is mistake , a player who can open up defences and gives a bit of creativity which England lack

I think the same. Would have been worth a gamble on Lallana, if he can get fit he has the best technical ability of any of our attackers.

I don't have too many complaints with the squad. I would have had Tarkowski in for Cahill, and Lallana in as mentioned (maybe for Trent or Delph) but that's all really.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think the same. Would have been worth a gamble on Lallana, if he can get fit he has the best technical ability of any of our attackers.

I don't have too many complaints with the squad. I would have had Tarkowski in for Cahill, and Lallana in as mentioned (maybe for Trent or Delph) but that's all really.

Why gamble on anyone sadly he’s a bad season through injury, we’ve slated previous managers for taking players not 100% fit. Fully fit he’d be in the first 11.

Pity Gomez got injured, I’d of took him instead of Cahill.

 

[Rooter]

Errr where is James Milner??

 

[Lord Tyrion]

We have a long history of gambling on injured or just back from injured players at tournaments. Can't think of one example of where it succeeded.

Unlucky for Lallana but not worth the risk.

 

[Rooter]

Also, why 9 defenders? and so light in midfield? Surely 7 is enough and that allows and extra midfield and forward... Then again, what do i know?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Also, why 9 defenders? and so light in midfield? Surely 7 is enough and that allows and extra midfield and forward... Then again, what do i know?

Reality is we will play 1 up front so Wellbeck, Rashford and Sterling are classed as strikers but are likely to play wide in a 5 man midfield if picked. I can only really see Kane or Vardy playing as a genuine striker, not at the same time either. Splitting it down into categories is a bit outdated in the modern era.

 

[Papas1982]

Errr where is James Milner??

Retired......

 

[ColchesterFC]

Also, why 9 defenders? and so light in midfield? Surely 7 is enough and that allows and extra midfield and forward... Then again, what do i know?

I guess Southgate is looking at the option of playing three centre backs with wing backs so having nine defenders gives more possibilities. And as LT says below, if we go with 4 defenders then it's likely to be 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 (becoming 4-5-1 when we don't have the ball) with just one main striker, either Kane or Vardy.

 

[Orikoru]

Errr where is James Milner??

Still retired.

 

[Orikoru]

Also, why 9 defenders? and so light in midfield? Surely 7 is enough and that allows and extra midfield and forward... Then again, what do i know?

Well we know Southgate is going to play 5 at the back. And it's really 8 defenders plus Young and Delph who are utility players. I don't wholly disagree though, as mentioned earlier I would have found a spot for Lallana, as he's a unique player for us if fit.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Also, why 9 defenders? and so light in midfield? Surely 7 is enough and that allows and extra midfield and forward... Then again, what do i know?

He is going for pace and with Henderson and Dier sitting , works well for counter attacking teams but against teams that will sit deep then England lack a player who can unlock a team - Lallana can provide that something different that England always fail take to a tournament, always go with pace and power and it doesn’t work

 

[User62651]

Have a feeling Rashford is going to be the England breakout/standout player, well rested this season and something to prove.
The squad generally looks pretty ordinary to me compared to other tournaments, but solid I suppose. Delli Alli needs to find the form of last season and Kane needs rest. Raheem Sterling needs to step up but I dont think he will.
Why on earth is Wellbeck still included?:mmm:

 

[Papas1982]

He is going for pace and with Henderson and Dier sitting , works well for counter attacking teams but against teams that will sit deep then England lack a player who can unlock a team - Lallana can provide that something different that England always fail take to a tournament, always go with pace and power and it doesn’t work

Hes played maybe a dozen games all season!

Im a massive fan of Lallana’s but in no way should he be in the 23 right now imo. He’s in the reserves, I’m Sure if he features in the two friendlies and proves his fitness then a squad rejig will occur.

At least one change will happen before Russia due to injury. It always does.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Hes played maybe a dozen games all season!

Im a massive fan of Lallana’s but in no way should he be in the 23 right now imo. He’s in the reserves, I’m Sure if he features in the two friendlies and proves his fitness then a squad rejig will occur.

At least one change will happen before Russia due to injury. It always does.

He is fit now , that’s all that matters and if he is fit enough to be a reserve he should be fit enough to be in tbe squad. You look at that squad and there doesn’t seem to be one player who can come on and change a game with something a bit different or pick a pass , the minute Wilshire wasn’t going who whilst is overhyped can pick a pass England are now left with the same old same old - thought Southgate would try something different

 

[Orikoru]

Have a feeling Rashford is going to be the England breakout/standout player, well rested this season and something to prove.
The squad generally looks pretty ordinary to me compared to other tournaments, but solid I suppose. Delli Alli needs to find the form of last season and Kane needs rest. Raheem Sterling needs to step up but I dont think he will.
Why on earth is Wellbeck still included?:mmm:

Dele has actually finally hit form in the last few weeks - 5 goals in March and April. Even Kane finally looked sharp again in the last game at Leicester. So hopefully they both just got their sharpness back in time.

I actually think Welbeck is a touch underrated. He works very hard, can play left wing or up front, good goal scoring record for England (in fact he is the top scorer in this squad).

 

[Papas1982]

He is fit now , that’s all that matters and if he is fit enough to be a reserve he should be fit enough to be in tbe squad. You look at that squad and there doesn’t seem to be one player who can come on and change a game with something a bit different or pick a pass , the minute Wilshire wasn’t going who whilst is overhyped can pick a pass England are now left with the same old same old - thought Southgate would try something different

Or maybe Southgate doesn’t think he is fit? I’ve not seen him starting for Liverpool lately and you’re short of numbers. England have taken punts on unfit players far to often and had egg on their faces.

Last year he was good enough for england, so we’re hart, Wilshere and Bertrand. This year he hasn’t done anything to warrant a place. You can’t pick someone on memories. So imo he has a chance to earn the spot over the next few weeks.

 

[Orikoru]

Another question is who will captain the side? Has to be someone who's guaranteed to start so you're down to about 6 options already. For my money it should be Kane, he has the winner's attitude, would lead by example, plus I think the armband would make him raise his game, which as the focal point for our attack is invaluable.

I have a horrible feeling it might be Henderson though.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Another question is who will captain the side? Has to be someone who's guaranteed to start so you're down to about 6 options already. For my money it should be Kane, he has the winner's attitude, would lead by example, plus I think the armband would make him raise his game, which as the focal point for our attack is invaluable.

I have a horrible feeling it might be Henderson though.

Who the captain is should be irrelevant - only in England does it get hyped up so much ( another consequence of the Beckham hysteria) , other countries don’t even bother naming one and just give it to the player with the most caps on the day.

But if it’s Henderson he has shown himself all year how well he can captain a team - does Kane even captain Spurs ?

Either the way it should be right near the bottom of things to worry about

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Who the captain is should be irrelevant - only in England does it get hyped up so much ( another consequence of the Beckham hysteria) , other countries don’t even bother naming one and just give it to the player with the most caps on the day.

But if it’s Henderson he has shown himself all year how well he can captain a team - does Kane even captain Spurs ?

Either the way it should be right near the bottom of things to worry about

England got nothing to worry about other than the safety of England fans. England are at least participating - and that gives the fans of all the clubs who year in year out have limited expectations of any form of success for their club, at least they have Negalnd.

I'd make Jamie Vardy skipper - hang about up front leaving the rest of the team to get on with sorting themselves out

 

[virgilvdk]

I think the same. Would have been worth a gamble on Lallana, if he can get fit he has the best technical ability of any of our attackers.

I don't have too many complaints with the squad. I would have had Tarkowski in for Cahill, and Lallana in as mentioned (maybe for Trent or Delph) but that's all really.

11 Appearances all season, most as a sub. Had he been fit and palying regualry then there is no doubt he'd be in, the same for Wilshire too probably. Leaving him out is the right descision.