Woolwich soldier killing

Five&One said:
Or its a double bluff. I have told you to your face that I am a spy, therefore you think that I couldn't possibly be one or I wouldn't have told you. That's what your supposed to think. Now you haven't got a clue whether I am a spy or not. That's top level MI6 training for you.
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No spies live in Edinburgh.... unless that's a sneaky plan of yours to hide your real location... hang on.... there was just a noise from upstairs.......... are you upstairs with my missus?????? :p
 
Just seen a new clip of the main murderer running at the police car. With no less than 2 shots at him at that range, he must be the most serious injured of the 2 and I'm surprised he's alive TBH, he may have been shot more as I'm sure I heard a further 2 shots after he dropped the knife in the road whilst in full flight and after the first 2 shots landing but got close enough for another burst to be made.
 
Birchy said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22658979

Wonder what this is all about? Could of been triggered by recent events?
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Well you don't try to get into the cabin "a few times" just to say hello do you, this was a serious threat even though no weapons were found or used to overcome the plane and..........

Is this the start of a new wave of threats from British National sleepers with parents who originate from countries we are occupying or who sympathise with those countries?
 
jimbob.someroo said:
Just seen this shared on t'internet. Probably the most sense and balance I've heard from anyone about the whole thing -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RU9QBX4U9qE
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I'm not so sure. I was discussing this thread with a friend and this is how part of the conversation went...


Here's a protest march by Muslims pertaining to a Muslim woman who was arrested because her husband had set off a bomb in Stockholm in 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo

Now what kind of protest march would we expect to see by the Muslim community if a Muslim boy just had his head hacked off in a local high street by a couple of Christians?????

Should we agree that they'd just let it pass and we wouldn't see any protest at all? or do we think that it would be more of an issue?

If we accept that it might be more of an issue then where's the protest marches by those that support our Christian soldier?

I don't know what's right or wrong here.... should it just pass? Is that what we do?
 
JustOne said:
If we accept that it might be more of an issue then where's the protest marches by those that support our Christian soldier?

I don't know what's right or wrong here.... should it just pass? Is that what we do?
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I'm not disagreeing with you here and can see your point - but there was a march/protest of sorts, albeit by the EDL. In my (youngish) lifetime, we've never really had that many marches by Christians, it just doesn't seem the done thing? We have marches by trade unions and gay rights activists but it just doesn't seem that Christian's choose to protest in that manner. Whats more, I've not seen anything which said that the poor lad was actually a Christian. A large proportion of us have no real strong faith and that could also be why we've not heard much from Christian groups on this particular case.

That said, I'm sure there'll be thousands lining the street for the funeral and rightly so.
 
jimbob.someroo said:
we've never really had that many marches by Christians, it just doesn't seem the done thing? We have marches by trade unions and gay rights activists but it just doesn't seem that Christian's choose to protest in that manner.
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I would say CND wouldn't have got started without the support of 'christian' leaders here in the UK... Many on the early marchers would've been there because of their strong 'christian' beliefs...
 
Other than the fact that the attack was uncalled for and psychotic, my other major gripe was that the BBC felt the need to show the footage on the six o clock news. It was wholly inappropriate and sensationalist, did nothing other than gives these nut jobs a platform and the publicity they seek. To show the young lad laying dead in the street made me livid as it was someone's son, and had only just happened! The BBC should hang their heads in shame and I actually submitted a complaint battling my way through their lengthy 'lets try to put people off complaining' process. I urge you all to do the same.

None of us needed to see that and what a damn shame for the lads family.
 
I find it very sad that many people's first reaction when witnessing that event, was to grab their mobile phone and film the event. That man could have been over powered and restrained until police arrived.

I think the EDL are a bunch of idiots, and their behaviour should warrant an arrest - much the same as they are asking for those that preach hatred against our nation and our troops. Two wrongs, simply do not make a right.

You can't win a war against extremism, with extremism. By behaving in the manner the EDL did, all we have given to those watching from afar, the required propoganda to recruit their next bunch of youngsters.

I am very fearful of where, and how, this will all come to a head. Years of tension, a vicious undercurrent of discontent, and morons with loud voices on both sides.
 
Yer Maw said:
Other than the fact that the attack was uncalled for and psychotic, my other major gripe was that the BBC felt the need to show the footage on the six o clock news. It was wholly inappropriate and sensationalist, did nothing other than gives these nut jobs a platform and the publicity they seek. To show the young lad laying dead in the street made me livid as it was someone's son, and had only just happened! The BBC should hang their heads in shame and I actually submitted a complaint battling my way through their lengthy 'lets try to put people off complaining' process. I urge you all to do the same.

None of us needed to see that and what a damn shame for the lads family.
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Absolutely 100% in agreement...

Herself went through the lengthy process yesterday to register our thoughts with the BBC...
 
AuburnWarrior said:
No, you're right. Absolutely every horrible thing that has ever happened in this country has been done by a foreigner or by someone with dark skin or by someone who wasn't a Christian.

Dr Harold Shipman - where was he from?
Ian Huntley - where was he from?
Myra Hindley - where was she from?
Fred West - where was he from?
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So you didn't answer my question. So lets accept you have never been to the USA and have no experience of life there.

I explained my opinion on national culture and you seem want to reply by making a list of British convicted psychopaths as examples of normal British behaviour. I never mentioned religion either but you seem to have dragged this into your reply to me.

Is it possible for you to actually read and digest my posts and spend a little time considering your response before putting digit to keyboard?
 
Whee said:
I find it very sad that many people's first reaction when witnessing that event, was to grab their mobile phone and film the event. That man could have been over powered and restrained until police arrived.
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would you try and intervene and restrain a nutter with a whacking great knife who has already hacked someone up?
 
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