Why do I duff my chips?

birdyhunter

Active member
Joined
Jun 11, 2020
Messages
131
Visit site
A shot between say, 15-40 yards should be a simple wedge onto the green.

It's easy on a nice fluffy lie, however when the ball is sitting down on hard ground or mud with not much grass I will either blade it through the green, or hit an inch behind the ball and chunk it.

I have no idea where the clubhead is and I'm just waving at it hoping to make a clean connection.

Any drills or tips much appreciated, thanks.
 

Oddsocks

Ryder Cup Winner
Joined
Jun 20, 2010
Messages
17,037
Location
Croydon, Surrey
Visit site
I found when I went through this I’d was due to de-acceleration in the down swing, this was caused by a back swing being too long for the shot.

If you watch tigers practice pitches, he generally takes a very small back swing with a full follow through to the stop which avoids this.

“ personally “ I would try shortening your back swing and swinging through to the top, but this is only based on previous experience and without seeing a video it would be impossible to say.
 

Imurg

The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Joined
Mar 15, 2008
Messages
37,702
Location
Aylesbury Bucks
Visit site
My short game is pretty hot until my eyes leave the back of the ball.
The moment I look up I hit 3 inches behind.
Rarely blade one through, almost always hit heavy.
Keep my eyes focused on the back of the ball and everything works.
 

HomerJSimpson

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Messages
73,206
Location
Bracknell - Berkshire
Visit site
No short cut to short game success. I have struggled and tried many techniques. I went to a simpler technique as shown by Danny Maude (and he plays off mud in the video)

I have also played with bounce and found that in really muddy lies a lot of bounce seems to let me hit a little behind the ball and it'll skid on the mud and still get it up whereas a thin sole (less bounce) really struggled. As course dry, or if a course has tight/grassy lies I'll switch bounces to give myself the best option
 

JustOne

Ryder Cup Winner
Joined
Apr 6, 2009
Messages
14,803
www.justoneuk.com
^
^
Martin, Gotta love how you post a video where the guy duffs some chips himself. Although I kinda see what he's trying to say it shows how easy it is to accidentally decelerate and flub a chip or two.

I prefer this video as you don't focus on swinging the club thru the ball, rather just worry about where you are going to stop
I like it where he says "Put both hands right here.. past the ball"

You have to commit to the shot so determining before you swing where you are going to FINISH your swing will help make sure they get there.

 

chrisd

Major Champion
Joined
Sep 22, 2009
Messages
24,966
Location
Kent
Visit site
^
^
Martin, Gotta love how you post a video where the guy duffs some chips himself. Although I kinda see what he's trying to say it shows how easy it is to accidentally decelerate and flub a chip or two.

I prefer this video as you don't focus on swinging the club thru the ball, rather just worry about where you are going to stop
I like it where he says "Put both hands right here.. past the ball"

You have to commit to the shot so determining before you swing where you are going to FINISH your swing will help make sure they get there.


Good video that one James. Also good to see a post from you ??
 

Smiffy

Grand Slam Winner
Joined
Oct 17, 2008
Messages
24,070
Location
Gods waiting room.....
Visit site
My chipping is usually pretty good. I normally fancy myself to chip quite close.
If I mess up, it's normally because I've looked up too early which leads to a fatted shot.
Doesn't need to be much, just a fraction of a second. You hardly notice it.
I guess I'm too keen to see the results.
 

BubbaP

Occasional Player of Golf
Joined
Oct 26, 2011
Messages
5,708
Location
Oxfordshire
Visit site
The other thing that maybe hasn't been covered above is do you need to automatically grab the wedge.

An 8 or 7 iron may automatically have you shallowing and shortening instinctively. Can work back up in loft once confidence returns.
 

Blue in Munich

Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Joined
Jan 12, 2013
Messages
14,097
Location
Worcester Park
Visit site
The other thing that maybe hasn't been covered above is do you need to automatically grab the wedge.

An 8 or 7 iron may automatically have you shallowing and shortening instinctively. Can work back up in loft once confidence returns.

Did a GM event at Princes a while ago and the Pro doing the chipping section said the thought process for deciding which club to use was Driver, Hybrid, 7 iron, wedge. Will the driver do the job; if it will, use it, if it won't go to the hybrid, and so on. We were actually chipping to the 9th on the Himalayas with drivers, and it was more successful than you might think.
 

USER1999

Grand Slam Winner
Joined
Mar 9, 2007
Messages
25,671
Location
Watford
Visit site
Padraig Harrington has a good YouTube video on chipping. I found it to be quite enlightening, and in general my short game is tidy. One of the key take aways was that you need your sternum over the ball, as that is pretty much where your swing will bottom out.
 

Curls

Journeyman Pro
Joined
Mar 25, 2011
Messages
3,271
Visit site
What a quality video ?

They’re all quality in fairness, the only channel I actively check in to see if he’s put another lesson up. The latest shoulder turn one is awesome and while I usually hibernate in the winter, this channel has me excited for the restart to try out some of these moves
 

ScienceBoy

Money List Winner
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
10,260
Location
Cambridge
Visit site
If you are using a lofted club the shot is a pitch as you probably want the ball to roll a lot less than it flies. If you want it to roll more than it flies use a less lofted club.

I wouldn’t worry about too much technical details until you figure out if you want to carry it there or roll it.
 
Joined
Jul 31, 2017
Messages
534
www.hiltonpark.net
Just to revive an old thread about my nemesis - pitching.
I don't mind a chip, I generally use a high iron with a putting stroke. It's not perfect but it works. Pitching from 20 yards plus is a big issue, I duff a lot of them. I went up today for a long practice and was having a nightmare so decided to just have a go at swinging with just my right hand on the club. I didn't miss one out of 30 or so but every time I put my left hand back on the inconsistency was back.
Any ideas what might be going on apart from lack of talent??
 
Joined
Jul 31, 2017
Messages
534
www.hiltonpark.net
Just go again tomorrow and practice.
And then practice again, and again....

It's a skill, you'll work it out.
It's something I've practiced an awful lot to the point that I feel I have a head full of too much theory for something that should be a natural touch feeling. The one handed swing had more of that natural feel to it.
 
Joined
Jul 31, 2017
Messages
534
www.hiltonpark.net
If I get like that I just go back to thinking about what the club is doing and then just swing it through the ball.
Might be worth just swinging a few right handed and then just try and recreate that.
Tee the ball up at first to get a bit of confidence, works wonders.
Thanks traminator, that sounds like a good plan, take the ball out of the equation for a few.
I do remember a BBC sport report on a bloke on one if the lesser tours who used one handed to help.his training and then stuck with it. Safe to say he didn't make the main tour ?
 
Top