Who you going to vote for?

[ColchesterFC]

It happens conversing with morons

Well stop talking to the mirror in your bathroom then.

 

[BristolMike]

You mean apart from the figures that show spending on the NHS has increased year on year not only during the recent Conservative government but also previously during the Labour governments? Apart from that then I guess that I have nothing substantive (not substantial) to back that up. But if you Google total NHS spending year on year you will be able to see the increases. They've even got easy to understand graphs for the hard of thinking.

I work with the NHS (management consultancy) and I can confirm the spending on the NHS is actually higher than it's ever been. The problem with the NHS is the extra pressure being placed upon it with record numbers of patients, but also huge inefficient practices within NHS trusts in general. There is so much wastage it's crazy. None of that will really change with even more money pumped in, it will just increase wastage.

 

[SocketRocket]

It happens conversing with morons

Keep away from Corbyn rallies then.

 

[richy]

Well stop talking to the mirror in your bathroom then.

Keep away from Corbyn rallies then.

Cringe! I just feel bad for you both after those shocking efforts.

 

[SocketRocket]

Is that the same confusion were the tories have promised to increase NHS spending year on year to 2022 whilst at the same time the NHS being told to reduce costs by £20bn by 2020, giving with one hand and taking away with the other.

No confusion at all. Funding has risen year on year. Costs should always be kept under control especially where there are high levels of wasted funding. That's the way any successful business works.

 

[SocketRocket]

Cringe! I just feel bad for you both after those shocking efforts.

Dont feel bad, it's so easy.

 

[richy]

Dont feel bad, it's so easy.

Ok grandad.

You see I can tell you're really old because your patter is sh!te

 

[BristolMike]

No confusion at all. Funding has risen year on year. Costs should always be kept under control especially where there is high levels of wasted funding. That's the way any successful business works.

Finally someone who gets it. The savings targets were to reduce wastage. Labour wasted huge amounts of money within the NHS, I could name some key areas, but some people only read what ever suits their views

 

[ColchesterFC]

I work with the NHS (management consultancy) and I can confirm the spending on the NHS is actually higher than it's ever been. The problem with the NHS is the extra pressure being placed upon it with record numbers of patients, but also huge inefficient practices within NHS trusts in general. There is so much wastage it's crazy. None of that will really change with even more money pumped in, it will just increase wastage.

But is it a "record number of patients" or is it a record number of morons that don't realise that their sprained ankle could be treated at home with a bag of frozen peas or their "flu-like symptoms" could be treated with lemsip. We need to educate these idiots that A&E is for accidental and emergencies not ingrowing toe nails and GPs aren't for coughs and colds.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Looks like a Progressive Alliance then if GM Forum vote is correct:ears:

 

[SocketRocket]

Ok grandad.

You see I can tell you're really old because your patter is sh!te

Oh Dear! Grow up please.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No confusion at all. Funding has risen year on year. Costs should always be kept under control especially where there are high levels of wasted funding. That's the way any successful business works.

Or just give them £20Bn less over the period and still look for credit at how much they're getting.

 

[richy]

Pathetic, just grow up.

1-0

 

[SocketRocket]

1-0

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[BristolMike]

Or just give them £20Bn less over the period and still look for credit at how much they're getting.

They aren't getting 20bn less. They are getting a year on year increase, they are being asked to reduce inefficiencies. A lot of the trusts I work with have huge wastage and will hit their savings target easily. That money is then funnelled through to patient care

 

[ColchesterFC]

Cringe! I just feel bad for you both after those shocking efforts.

So no come back on the NHS funding increasing year on year then?

 

[SocketRocket]

Or just give them £20Bn less over the period and still look for credit at how much they're getting.

Funding has risen year on year.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What a surprise a simple poll of who you will vote for has degraded to the same level as all the other political threads and it's no surprise it's the same poster at the heart of it posting derogatory comments towards people

 

[SocketRocket]

What a surprise a simple poll of who you will vote for has degraded to the same level as all the other political threads and it's no surprise it's the same poster at the heart of it posting derogatory comments towards people

I think you will find the debate has been quite sensible other than one posters crude attempts at put downs.

 

[SocketRocket]

Looks like a Progressive Alliance then if GM Forum vote is correct:ears:

Looks like the the Scottish Indy poll shows you will still be in the UK next year.