Crow
Crow Person
Always a fence sitter me so I voted the same.
Both can seriously mess with your head and both are two shots gone.
Both can seriously mess with your head and both are two shots gone.
What's more destructive?
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UlyssesSky
Head Pro
Seems like we're quite different. Fluffing a chip and then 3 putting will annoy me, but only until I reach the next tee. It may even fire me up to go and make up for it on the next hole.
The reason why a chip and three putt won't bother me too much while a drive out of bounds will is that I know that bad chipping and putting isn't a technical issue but rather a matter of concentration (or lack thereof). A bad drive comes from a swing flaw, and especially if it comes out of the blue reminds me that I shouldn't trust my driving too much...
I can't remember hitting two terribly bad chip shots in a row, or making two 'unforced' three putts in a row, but I know I've hit drives out of bounds or into deep trouble on consecutive holes. Heck, I've even managed to hit two drives to the exact same spot out of bounds on the same hole within 2 minutes...
So you see, for me bad driving is something that always seems to be lurking just around the corner of the next tee, and hitting a bad drive can easily destroy the confidence from the last couple of good drives.
If someone had the putting yips and the three putt was the result of a missed short putt, I'd guess he'll see the chip and three putt scenario as much worse.
I disagree (politely). For me, averaging only 46% of fairways in 2015, I was always capable (still am) of going OOB but my whole ethos this year is to trust my game and the work I'm doing. I take stock from the fact that even a pro can go OOB and so I am trying not to see it as a swing fault and just a poor shot. A chip and a three putt is harder for me to take, given the hours I've dedicated to finding a chipping technique that works (and then having trust in it) and the fact I work hard on my putting. Neither ultimately are the end of the world to me any more but the chip/putt just gnaws away at me more
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
OOB for me. Both cost 2 shots (if it was an easy ish chip) but going OOB you're still standing there with the same shot to play.
Darth Fader
Club Champion
Has to be the chip and 3 putt, four blows from close to the green is just a killer
Soft hands
Assistant Pro
OOB for me as its a lot more likely for me to do than to chip and 3 putt. Short game is about the only thing holding my game together at the min.
Sats
Challenge Tour Pro
Both, it's either a bad sign for the rest of the hole or it's a disappointing end to what could have been. Both are terrible and need a metaphorical kick in the goolies.
ChrisB0210
Assistant Pro
Tee shot for me. We have a few holes where it's very easy to go oob off the tee and it can really mess with your head (and has mine a few times).
If I chip and 3 putt I can deal with that more easily than hacking one oob.
If I chip and 3 putt I can deal with that more easily than hacking one oob.
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guest100718
Guest
they are just things that can happen in a round, even the best go OOB and 3 putt.. Biggest killer for me is poor shot selection.
richart
Major Champion
OB for me, as I can quite easily hit the second drive OB as well.
At least with a chip and three putt the hole is over. I usually chip and at least two putt so no big deal. Drive OB will not make me feel confident on the next hole, where as chip and three putts would have no lasting affect on me.
At least with a chip and three putt the hole is over. I usually chip and at least two putt so no big deal. Drive OB will not make me feel confident on the next hole, where as chip and three putts would have no lasting affect on me.
MadAdey
Money List Winner
Chip and 3 putt every time. A bad swing happens at some point in the round, just unfortunate when it happens with a driver in hand so can deal with it.
A 3 putt is bad enough, but when you have had a chip first, it feels more like a 4 putt, which is 2 shots too many. More of a head messer to me.
A 3 putt is bad enough, but when you have had a chip first, it feels more like a 4 putt, which is 2 shots too many. More of a head messer to me.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I've gone for 'the same' but I think OOB would edge it just
Both are as destructive to my score on the hole but I'd rarely make any points after an OOB, so mentally at least with a 3-putt I've managed to play the hole believing I can score
Both are as destructive to my score on the hole but I'd rarely make any points after an OOB, so mentally at least with a 3-putt I've managed to play the hole believing I can score
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Hitting the first OOB and then duffing your chip and three putting with the 2nd ball.
That will be an 8 then.
That will be an 8 then.
D
Deleted member 1147
Guest
This.
You would hope to be getting closer, with every shot when chipping & putting. But the OOB still leaves you x hundred yards from the hole, where even more trouble could follow.
Ross61
Challenge Tour Pro
Hitting the first OOB and then duffing your chip and three putting with the 2nd ball.
That will be an 8 then.
I reckon I could manage to duff that chip into the bunker right up against the lip and take 2 out of the bunker to make a nice 11. :angry:
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Nothing worse than out of bounds. You may as well not even have hit the ball.
Complete waste. Even a duffed chip goes closer to the hole most of the time.
Complete waste. Even a duffed chip goes closer to the hole most of the time.
OOB off the tee for me. It stays in my head longer, probably effects every tee shot for the rest of the round as I do have a tendency to slice when driving badly. I can remember the hole where I went OOB at the weekend but can't remember the worst short game hole.
bobmac
Major Champion
On the other hand, the outcome of the hole is still in your hands.
You could switch to the 3 wood and still make bogey.
Even if you make par with your second ball you can still take that positive thought to the next tee. After all, it was just a one off, one careless swing.
However, taking 4 to get down from the edge is just a waste, after the hard bit has been done. It's hard to take a positive thought to the next tee after that lot.
chrisd
Major Champion
OB for me, as I can quite easily hit the second drive OB as well.
Absolutely this ^for me too.
davemc1
Journeyman Pro
I went out of bounds first 2 shots yesterday. Wasnt particularly upset as both where decent strikes especially the first. Gave me the confidence to go on and have a decent round of the tee.
I was about ten yards off the green last year, duffed two chips, finally got it on the green and sank the putt. This still grinds me even now.
I was about ten yards off the green last year, duffed two chips, finally got it on the green and sank the putt. This still grinds me even now.
