What's Happened.

Get me to 60 then it's pack up time and Spain for me this country has had it. The politicians must be taking bungs from countries all over the world, they have to be. Everyone seems to be bothered about the East Europeans no one wants to know about the massive influx of African immigrants, they are everywhere in Leeds and I do mean in their thousands, the schools are full, the doctors are full the social housing is full and no one seems to mention this. Why not, simple if you do you are a racist, Government hides behind this and not one of them dare stop it in case they lose their precious seat and cushy lifestyle.
 
I too have these concerns and genuinely fear for the future of this once great nation, but to answer your original question 'whats happened?'

Tony Blair and New Labour happened!
 
nothing , country is no different now really

Your Just moaning as all older folk seem to
things aren't how they used to be etc etc

Get over it

change is inevitable

And on a positive note , it's nearly as good as a rest
 
nothing , country is no different now really

Your Just moaning as all older folk seem to
things aren't how they used to be etc etc

Get over it

change is inevitable

And on a positive note , it's nearly as good as a rest

I started to answer you but decided it's not worth it.
 
You mean you started to answer me in a sensible way but thought you couldn't be bothered , but you wanted me to know that you couldn't be bothered for some reason so answered to that effect instead :lol:

No! I considered your post a wind up.
 
No! I considered your post a wind up.


It's how I see it , I hear it from people all the time , bloody this , bloody that , countries gone to the dogs etc

I fail to see it , you should actually be proud of the fact that people want to come here and proud of the fact we look after our less fortunate members of society well , sure some people abuse the system , they are in the minority
 
We live in a society flooded with images of sex, violence and crime - what do you expect?

In financial terms we will always be fleeced,.. pay the workers the least possible, it's OK to let companies off their taxes, it's also OK to give billions to India so they can give it to Africa.

What is it you want? ....I'd like to know what it is you are picturing.
 
It's how I see it , I hear it from people all the time , bloody this , bloody that , countries gone to the dogs etc

I fail to see it , you should actually be proud of the fact that people want to come here and proud of the fact we look after our less fortunate members of society well , sure some people abuse the system , they are in the minority

You are entitled to that opinion.
 
The spirit of Alf Garnett is alive and kicking .......it seems.

Nearest city to me is Glasgow, it is alive an vibrant.
Now when I was a teenager in the 1960's I was usually too scared to go there.
 
The spirit of Alf Garnett is alive and kicking .......it seems.

Nearest city to me is Glasgow, it is alive an vibrant.
Now when I was a teenager in the 1960's I was usually too scared to go there.

From what I have seen in Scotland you have not been affected as much as England by the social and demographic changes over the last decade.

I must say again that it is not just immigration (although that is an issue when the country has been trying to absorb such unprecedented numbers) it is also the way people have been changed by the social engineering of the last decade, this has encouraged a dependency culture where people dont feel responsible for their actions.

How can it be acceptable for people to make a lifetime decision to live off the state when they are not disabled. How can it be right for people to produce children they could not support if they worked. How can it be right for people to live in houses they could not afford if they worked.

Suggesting it's an 'Alf Garnett' attitude or 'Grumpy old people' is a little unfair IMO as I believe a great number of people are very concerned for the future of their Children and Grandchildren.
 
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Get me to 60 then it's pack up time and Spain for me this country has had it. The politicians must be taking bungs from countries all over the world, they have to be. Everyone seems to be bothered about the East Europeans no one wants to know about the massive influx of African immigrants, they are everywhere in Leeds and I do mean in their thousands, the schools are full, the doctors are full the social housing is full and no one seems to mention this. Why not, simple if you do you are a racist, Government hides behind this and not one of them dare stop it in case they lose their precious seat and cushy lifestyle.

And in what way will it be better in Spain (except perhaps for the weather).
 
I have often wondered if the Spanish think of the English in the same way that the English think of the Polish.

It's not the same. Brits in Spain generally go there in retirement to spend money. They dont take jobs, they dont receive benefits, they spend a lot of money that helps the economy.
 
Lot of folks seem to have got out of the wrong side of the bed today. Things change -always did, always will, get over it!, try living somewhere else and you might appreciate what a bloody great country we have.
 
try living somewhere else and you might appreciate what a bloody great country we have.

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