What bloody shaft?????????????

[MadAdey]

Aerotech, Aldila, FST, Fujikura, Graphalloy, Graphite Design, Mitsubishi, UST......the list is endless. They are just the manafacturers. When you take into account all the different models of shafts these companies produce then you are looking in excess of 50 different design of shafts. Then take inot account the flexes you have over 100 shafts to choose from. HOw the hell do you choose the correct one? Yes you can go to a fitting centre but what fitting centre has all of those in?I have been looking at the diffrent companies and the shaft specs. If I am going to spend over £300 on an R11s then I want it set up correctly. So here is the challenge.Who can tell me what shafts should I be looking at, as I am going to have to find someone who has these shafts available to try. This is what I got shown on a launch monitor:128MPH clubhead speed168 ball speed16* launch angle should be around 11.5 - 12.53500RPM should be around 2500 - 2800So I need to up my ball speed to get the magical smash factor of 1.5 or slow my swing down. Well not going to slow my swing down so need the ball speed increasing. The ball was going too high, although it was straight.

 

[fundy]

The swing speed and the ball speeds don't add up to me, if it was me I'd get the numbers checked on a different machine before I went any further.

If the swing speed is correct I think you need to approach one of the manufacturers because 99.9% of the shafts available aren't going to be of any use to you.

If I had to choose a few to try it would be a Rombax 7Z08 or a Diamana Whiteboard (83g) in X flex but id definitely get a 2nd opinion on the numbers first

 

[CMAC]

agree with Fundy.

My limited knowledge and some monitor figs from a week ago had a SS of 110mph and ball speed of 165.

Did you have any 'carry' figs? what monitor was being used?

 

[MadAdey]

Do not know what machine it was, but I did get carry figures of 268. This was not a proper fitting as I called in so I could have a go with the RBZ abd R11s on the range to see how they felt. The lad said to me about getting booked in for a proper fitting as on the range you could see that the ball was ballooning up in the air with the R11s. He did take me into the bay and let me hit 3 balls to show me what it can do and he said straight away that the RPM and launch angle was too high so I was loosing distance, hence the low smash factor of 1.3. So it would be of benefit to get a proper fitting session done.This is sort of a carry on from a thread I started previously on the R11s after trying it. I now understand that the mid launch shaft that is fitted as standard may not be right for me and I may need to go to an X-stiff flex after listening to advicefrom several forum members. I was just looking for any ideas on what shaft I should be considering and maybe where I could go and try the R11s out with some more exotic shafts.

 

[bluewolf]

I've got some quarter inch steel bar that I can cut down to the required length if you want it.

 

[MadAdey]

I've got some quarter inch steel bar that I can cut down to the required length if you want it.

Not the worst idea I have been given......lol

 

[bluewolf]

It's marine grade as well, so it won't rust.

 

[Foxholer]

he said straight away that the RPM and launch angle was too high so I was loosing distance, hence the low smash factor of 1.3. So it would be of benefit to get a proper fitting session done.

Now that really IS a reason not to trust him. Smash Factor is nothing to do with those 2 stats!

Range balls would have serious affect on the session, so if he is actually using them for the real one, then stay well away!

I have heard that that head can be a bit tough to get the right shaft for (though from a fitter, so not un-biased) and you swing seem to be outside the 'average' grouping. Would recommend a 'proper' fitting even just to get your proper numbers though there's more than just those involved a fitting.

 

[moogie]

Id doubt anybody on here, regardless of knowledge or credentials, could possibly tell u which manufacturer or model shaft to choose for yourself, without actually seeing u swing and get some more figures.
But it DEFO looking like an X-Flex
Possibly a heavier Model
With less Torque, which can have a bearing on Spin too

Good Luck in your quest

But tread carefully, some Premium Specialist shafts, could end up Doubling the Price of your new Driver......

 

[MadAdey]

Now that really IS a reason not to trust him. Smash Factor is nothing to do with those 2 stats!Range balls would have serious affect on the session, so if he is actually using them for the real one, then stay well away!I have heard that that head can be a bit tough to get the right shaft for (though from a fitter, so not un-biased) and you swing seem to be outside the 'average' grouping. Would recommend a 'proper' fitting even just to get your proper numbers though there's more than just those involved a fitting.

I know that smash factor is the ratio between clubhead and ball speed and so did he. What he said was that by reducing the RPM which will also reduce the launch angle will increase ball speed, so that will then increase my smash factor towards the magical 1.5. This is the problem that I have. My ball speed going on the figures I saw is about 20MPH too slow.

 

[MadAdey]

Id doubt anybody on here, regardless of knowledge or credentials, could possibly tell u which manufacturer or model shaft to choose for yourself, without actually seeing u swing and get some more figures.But it DEFO looking like an X-FlexPossibly a heavier ModelWith less Torque, which can have a bearing on Spin tooGood Luck in your questBut tread carefully, some Premium Specialist shafts, could end up Doubling the Price of your new Driver......

This is my biggest fear. Am I going to go somewhere find an exotic shaft that is just so perfect buying anything else would not be right and end up paying £200+ for a shaft? You can pay a £40 upgrade on the R11s and get the stock shaft in the TP spec which is lower launching and heavier, so may find somewhere with one of those to try.

 

[moogie]

You can pay a £40 upgrade on the R11s and get the stock shaft in the TP spec which is lower launching and heavier, so may find somewhere with one of those to try.

That's your Best Bet
Wait til somebody local has the Full Fitting Cart with multiple shafts
Or
If you really want to go with the R11s Driver, then u would be better off booking a session at the Taylormade Fitting Centre
They will have the Biggest Choice of shafts, sure to be something to suit........??........Hopefully

 

[JJF69]

Aerotech, Aldila, FST, Fujikura, Graphalloy, Graphite Design, Mitsubishi, UST......the list is endless. They are just the manafacturers. When you take into account all the different models of shafts these companies produce then you are looking in excess of 50 different design of shafts. Then take inot account the flexes you have over 100 shafts to choose from. HOw the hell do you choose the correct one? Yes you can go to a fitting centre but what fitting centre has all of those in?I have been looking at the diffrent companies and the shaft specs. If I am going to spend over £300 on an R11s then I want it set up correctly. So here is the challenge.Who can tell me what shafts should I be looking at, as I am going to have to find someone who has these shafts available to try. This is what I got shown on a launch monitor:128MPH clubhead speed168 ball speed16* launch angle should be around 11.5 - 12.53500RPM should be around 2500 - 2800So I need to up my ball speed to get the magical smash factor of 1.5 or slow my swing down. Well not going to slow my swing down so need the ball speed increasing. The ball was going too high, although it was straight.

Jeepers - SS 128mph thats beyond TV golf, ultimately you will need a 100+ gram grpahite shaft with < 2.5 torque to control that, or the machine was on roflcoptr when publishing they stats mate. lol

 

[MGL]

I wouldn't go anywhere quoting those figures tbh!! They're wrong. Most tour players don't have a swing speed of 128mph and if you did, you would certainly be carrying a lot further than the distance you quote! Go to an independent fitter for the best exotic shafts - they don't use 'Made for xxxxx' rubbish.

 

[Mungoscorner]

128 mph ? ummmmmmm

 

[MadAdey]

Jeepers - SS 128mph thats beyond TV golf, ultimately you will need a 100+ gram grpahite shaft with < 2.5 torque to control that, or the machine was on roflcoptr when publishing they stats mate. lol

I will be booking in somewhere for a proper fitting at some point. preferably somewhere that has the TM fitting system so I can try it with different shafts in. I now know to make sure the launch monitor is setup correctly as it can give some overly high readings out when it isn't setup. But then again hitting the ball to the 250 marker with range balls even though they just ballooned in the air sayd the launch monitor may have been set correctly.

 

[Captainron]

I have similar issues with swing speed and getting shafts. I bought some gear off fleabay as a punt and it has worked out okay for me. You will have to pay loads extra for the shafts we require from the manufacturers. You could always hijack Alviro Quiros and makee off with his gear...

 

[wull]

i think your best bet would be to go for a fitting then you will get a better idea of what shaft will suit you.

just a shame scott gourlay is too far away for you but surely there is good places down south.

personally i don't see how the higher launch angle will be detrimental to your ball speed,to be honest a slower ball speed will benefit from a higher launch angle as it will need to carry as far as possible with less energy.

a penetrating flight will only benefit a player who can produce the high ball speed,the only reason a higher ball flight would lose you distance would be the fact that it's going up in the air instead of through the air towards where you want it to go.

 

[Foxholer]

I wouldn't go anywhere quoting those figures tbh!! They're wrong. Most tour players don't have a swing speed of 128mph and if you did, you would certainly be carrying a lot further than the distance you quote! Go to an independent fitter for the best exotic shafts - they don't use 'Made for xxxxx' rubbish.

Perhaps you may be a little biased?

 

[MGL]

Perhaps you may be a little biased?

How? I think the figures are patently wrong and independent fitters have access to better 'exotic' shafts than the OEM's.

..and I never promoted myself did I? ;-)