Chisteve
Head Pro
Ours is brutal now lost ball if it goes in rough and 1st cut is sticky grabing hold of club all very lush with all the rain we had and now hot weather
What’s your 1st cut/rough like
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Scoobiesnax
Assistant Pro
Exactly like the rough you have described; brutal!!
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
Growing faster than they can mow it!
Although they are trying hard, very hard.
Generally we have a low rough policy ie it's cut to a height where you should be able to see the ball from 20yds. The nature of the course is that it's more about lines of approach and you don't need even 4" of rough to penalise.
Although they are trying hard, very hard.
Generally we have a low rough policy ie it's cut to a height where you should be able to see the ball from 20yds. The nature of the course is that it's more about lines of approach and you don't need even 4" of rough to penalise.
Jensen
Tour Rookie
Ours certainly has more definition, the semi will take some roll off the ball. There is a premium for hitting the fairway, which is how it should be
cookelad
Tour Winner
First cut is just a centimetre or so longer than the fairway cut so easily playable second cut is another few centimetres longer again most of the time you can see it and get a reasonable lie.
But we have three levels the worst of which is basically waist high (in places) and thick, if you go in there you aren't finding it and if you do you probably can't get it out very far, most of the time you've got to be really wayward to get in there but there are some places where it's a bit too close to the racing line for my liking!
But we have three levels the worst of which is basically waist high (in places) and thick, if you go in there you aren't finding it and if you do you probably can't get it out very far, most of the time you've got to be really wayward to get in there but there are some places where it's a bit too close to the racing line for my liking!
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Last year our place got it wrong, the 1st cut was too long and too many balls were lost, time wasted searching. So far they have got it right. You can see the top of your ball but the grass grabs your club, it is not a free hit. Our fairways are wide enough that this is entirely fair.
Hopefully they can keep it this way if the growing season really kicks in. One of the difficulties at my course is the sheer expanse of grass to cut and keeping on top of it is down to man power numbers.
Hopefully they can keep it this way if the growing season really kicks in. One of the difficulties at my course is the sheer expanse of grass to cut and keeping on top of it is down to man power numbers.
Capella
Journeyman Pro
As others have said: it just grows so fast ... it is fine when it is freshly mown, but come back the next day and it is a desaster again. But they are trying. There are only very few parts on the course where they let it grow out on purpose to provide a habitat for birds and other critters. If you hit it somewhere there, you better play a provis right away, because that's a goner for sure.
On the rest of the course it is not even that high, I'd say it grows up to 3 to 4 inches max before it is mown again, but it is incredibly dense and has a lot of clover and other ground covering stuff in it that make it virtually impossible to find your ball unless you're stepping on it. Unless you are able to hit it hard, chipping out sideways is usually the way to go.
I don't mind rough to be punishing in the way that it is clingy and difficult to hit out of. It is rough after all. But I would like a chance to find the ball and at least give it a try.
On the rest of the course it is not even that high, I'd say it grows up to 3 to 4 inches max before it is mown again, but it is incredibly dense and has a lot of clover and other ground covering stuff in it that make it virtually impossible to find your ball unless you're stepping on it. Unless you are able to hit it hard, chipping out sideways is usually the way to go.
I don't mind rough to be punishing in the way that it is clingy and difficult to hit out of. It is rough after all. But I would like a chance to find the ball and at least give it a try.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
We have areas of your third cut - they are there for definition and wildlife reasons and aren't considered active parts of the playing course (although of course people will put a ball in them from time to time!). Over the years we have refined their positioning and they are now considered about right ie it's pretty rare for most members to put a ball into one.
Our first cut is maybe double the length of the fairway, 2nd is double that and the rough is longer still.
The rough is better this year. The club Bought a Bailer and rough cutter a comb. They used it a few times over winter and got rid of the really thick stuff. with the great weather we have had, its really sprouted in the last week.
its is coming trough a lot thinner and more whispy, you can now find it quite easily, but still requires you to take your medicine or the longer stuff wraps around the shafts a closed the face, so just end up further in if you take too much club out.
The rough is better this year. The club Bought a Bailer and rough cutter a comb. They used it a few times over winter and got rid of the really thick stuff. with the great weather we have had, its really sprouted in the last week.
its is coming trough a lot thinner and more whispy, you can now find it quite easily, but still requires you to take your medicine or the longer stuff wraps around the shafts a closed the face, so just end up further in if you take too much club out.
rksquire
Head Pro
It's horrible, it's difficult to find the ball and if you do it's even more difficult to play a shot as the grass catches the club and basically folds over the ball!
Wouldn't mind but shots onto middle of some fairways slop, and with the good conditions now just bounce and roll into the rough!
Wouldn't mind but shots onto middle of some fairways slop, and with the good conditions now just bounce and roll into the rough!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
You can (usually) find your ball in our first cut - but it's a lot easier if you watch carefully where it goes - a good discipline for all of us to practice and for some to learn.
Our 1st cut is as it should be, it's obviously longer than the fairways displaying some excellent definition, it's about 2ft wide lining the fairways, but the ball is very playable from it.
However, the rough immediately next to it is brutal, either the same height of the ball or very slightly less. It's thick and dense, even tough for a hybrid, so find yourself in this and it's a shot gone, it's an 8i at best to get out, so if your off target, your punished, and rightly so IMO.
However, the rough immediately next to it is brutal, either the same height of the ball or very slightly less. It's thick and dense, even tough for a hybrid, so find yourself in this and it's a shot gone, it's an 8i at best to get out, so if your off target, your punished, and rightly so IMO.
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cookelad
Tour Winner
I've noticed a few areas where the unplayable stuff has been cut back a little further away from the playing course this year compared to last, oddly enough the deep stuff closest to the fairways comes on the par 30 short course where the "beginners" play (though I must admit I play more golf on this than the big course)
drdel
Tour Rookie
Our rough is 30cm+ and thick so if you're in it then you're looking at a probable 3 shot drop. 1st cut has the cuttings left and is a bit more than ball high so it can be difficult to locate the ball.
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Mark_Aged_42
Assistant Pro
I went into mine 2 weeks ago. Just found my way out.
hines57
Challenge Tour Pro
+1 for this at our place. The ball really settles into the rough and is like playing out of soaking wire wool (not that i've ever tried that)!!!
JohnnyDee
Tour Winner
As above at ours too.
First cut is almost ball height, grabby, settley-downy and wiry. I'm rubbish out of rough so it kills me when I get into it.
First cut is almost ball height, grabby, settley-downy and wiry. I'm rubbish out of rough so it kills me when I get into it.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Ours is under control.
Gentle first cut is about double the fairway length and the second cut is a bit more than double that.
The longer stuff is about shin high and mostly kept that way.
Where fairways run alongside each other the rough is cut to first height. You're in the trees and hacking out but at least you'll find your ball.
Very few knee high areas, more bushes and brambles...
Gentle first cut is about double the fairway length and the second cut is a bit more than double that.
The longer stuff is about shin high and mostly kept that way.
Where fairways run alongside each other the rough is cut to first height. You're in the trees and hacking out but at least you'll find your ball.
Very few knee high areas, more bushes and brambles...
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
It was out of control a few weeks ago. Even a few yards off the fairway in the semi and it was a job to find it. Not good for pace of play and all of the holes got a good cut before we hosted a pro event recently. Since then with rain and hot sun, it's gone mad again. Not as bad as it was but it's settling down and is definitely a half shot penalty for getting in it. The real long stuff which is a good way off line, is now a no go zone and a definite provisional every time. Lap of the gods if you find it and more so if you can actually do anything with it
Crow
Crow Person
Our place is keeping pretty much on top of it but growth is very fast at the moment so one day it can be okay and the next it's getting borderline tricky to find your ball.
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