Westwood, the new Monty!!!

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Was gutted yet again for Westwood last night, but not much you can do when a guy has five birdies in six holes on a course that is pretty tough! At least he is now consistantly giving himself chances to win - just needs a bit of luck to go his way.
 
I think his game is a lot better than montys ever was and I think he will get over the line on one or two


Dream on. Monty had an alround better game that Westwood. Monty struggled on the greens not his driving, pitching and putting.
 
My favourite golfer so it was disappointing to see him wilt at the end. However I still think he is capable of winning a major and just needs that breakthrough in the same way Harrington did. Once he gets one he'll get a couple.

Even if he doesn't he's by far the most consistant European at the big events at the moment
 
I think his game is a lot better than montys ever was and I think he will get over the line on one or two


Dream on. Monty had an alround better game that Westwood. Monty struggled on the greens not his driving, pitching and putting.

Monty had one shot, but I agree had a better short game and made more putts
 
McIlroy chokes harder than a two-dollar prozzie and that's fine because he's a) Irish or b) young? Yes, he's started to win (although correct me if I'm wrong, he has neither won nor seriously contended a Major) but why is he immune from this accusation?

To suggest Westy is a choker is to display a lack of understanding. A choker would not have played 72 holes of imperious golf to win the Order of Merit last year. A choker would not have hit that 8 iron from the sand on to the green in last year's Open (alright, the putts went a bit but you get the point...).

Kite, Mickelson, Love, Furyk - all struggled to win the big ones. It turns out it can take a bit of time and all you can do is put yourself in the positions. One dodgy back nine does not make Westwood a failure/loser/choker etc.

At least he doesn't cry off with 'injury' when he's playing poorly like some I could mention...
 
For a top pro his short game is shocking, watched him on the 16th trying to scoop it out the bunker like someone who's never played golf before.

It must be a mental thing the last round he seems to come undone, his driving goes then thats it,its like a typical PGA Tour mentallity we dont need to win theres plenty cash for a top 10,a shame really, maybe needs to get away from Chandler and all the hangers on.
 
Could it be something to do with pin placement on day four of a major championship?

They always seem to put them in really nasty places and while players with a rock solid short game can save themselves or even score well when they hit it off line, Westwood's short game gets shown up? I don't think he's a choker and rather that when the courses are slightly more forgiving in the earlier stages of the tournament he tears it up. Anyone else think the same?
 
McIlroy chokes harder than a two-dollar prozzie and that's fine because he's a) Irish or b) young? Yes, he's started to win (although correct me if I'm wrong, he has neither won nor seriously contended a Major) but why is he immune from this accusation?

To suggest Westy is a choker is to display a lack of understanding. A choker would not have played 72 holes of imperious golf to win the Order of Merit last year. A choker would not have hit that 8 iron from the sand on to the green in last year's Open (alright, the putts went a bit but you get the point...).

A) mcilroy was not immune from "accusation" after the masters people where slating him right left and centre for the choices he made.

B) I like lee i followed him last year at loch lomond and he was great to watch. But to say he does not choke shows your "lack of understanding" if you are out front and play Imperious golf you dont loose these big events thats end of. yes he won the order of merit last year but one warm day does not make a summer. you can have all the shots but its the name on the trophy that counts.

C) as for your comment of pulling out injured we shall see if you are saying the same when rooney limps off with groin problem at the world cup.

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It baffles me that us as ametuers have the audasity to call any golfer a bottler that is consistently producing great golf week in week out,there is no doubt in my mind westwood will win a major,i can understand people that say it has to happen sooner rather than later, and im sure it will be soon. It seems we all maybe guilty of slating players wether its woods, poulter, kim,westwood etc,but maybe we should give these guys a little slack as im sure the pressure is intense on a sunday back nine.As most of us poo are pants on the first tee just in front of our mates for £2
 
It baffles me that us as ametuers have the audasity to call any golfer a bottler.

As most of us poo are pants on the first tee just in front of our mates for £2

Thats why we have handicaps if he is supposedly the best in the world he surely should'nt be nipping in the last round and would be able to seal the deal its not as if he is struggling for his card or money is it???
 
Im surprised noone has mentioned allenby neither, both of them had the best shot at the title and were beaten by a guy with less pressure on him, perhaps that is what Lee needs, to win from a shot or two behind on final day.
 
I think Westy is much more of a 'man' than Monty. He's much more approachable, doesn't tantrum and blame others for his poor fortune / golf.

That said I hope he'll one day be a better golfer than Monty too - but I'm not sure he'll get there. There's always hope though!!
 
as for your comment of pulling out injured we shall see if you are saying the same when rooney limps off with groin problem at the world cup.

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If Rooney 'limps off' with a groin strain after missing two penalties, an open goal, England are 8-0 down and he's got a face like a bulldog licking pish off a nettle - then it'll be a fair comparison.

Westwood went out to 200+ in the World rankings and, despite being more than comfortable, proceeded to wrench himself into the top 5 within a couple of years.

Oh yes, he's a choker alright. :D

He's the best player in the world without a Major and all the top pros concur...but what do they know compared to the mighty knowledge of the GM forum scribes?
 
i don't think westwood is a bottler. he's a class act. i have no doubt he has the mental toughness to win a major. i think the fact that he has gone close on a good few occasions is giving him the confidence that he has a great chance of winning a major
 
He has won 34 or more tournaments, its not like he hasnt won before. He just needs the last day to go his way, plenty of other "experienced winners" have fallen by the wayside in the last few majors too, its because he gets so close that he is going to wear the moniker. Id rather have that than a "never even close to a major" title.
 
What age is westwood 36? now and how many tournaments has he won in the last couple of years he has bottled more than he has won, Phil won his first major before 31 i think, Mcilroy is only 21 u have to give him a chance to devolope before u can call him a choker, how many pros are in contention in a major before they are 30, there are not many major winners under 30. Lees time has come he has had 5/6 chances for a major and i don't think he will have many more.
Mike
 
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