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Vaccines

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Will you have the covid-19 vaccine jab as soon as it is possible

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 66.3%

  • Not immediately

    Votes: 19 22.9%

  • No not ever

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 7 8.4%
  • Total voters
    83
Ethan and I have very different views on some subjects and have had some heated debates, However; I regard his medical posts as excellent and am always impressed with the content and expertise in them.

Regarding the vaccine, I will be prepared to have it as soon as possible as I don't like the look of the other possible outcomes or conspiracy theories.
 
DRW said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1324012953142743047

Doesn't sound great re the spike mutation/vaccines but to early to know, hope they stop it spreading further, poor minks.

https://nord.news/2020/11/04/radica...NRdXRLb2c3TDJhMU5HTjd4UTR4dTZNT0FxOVNmZ0JRaFc
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They better not minkey around.

This sort of report is the new normal. There will be more and more mutations, some more infectious but less deadly, some less infectious but more deadly. Several are already in play and their differing genomes have been used to figure out where they came from. 12 patients is not many, and presumably the statement about about reduced immunity refers to lab testing of the neutralising effect of their antibodies. We know that the immune response is more complex and multi-layered than antbodies, with some people immune without ever having antibodies. I don't need we should get too worried yet.
 
Interesting write up about the American vaccine setup etc and clearly they are looking at protecting the shipments etc from organised crime gangs

Also would image some the low numbers in the profession that is quoted from this article is probably a reflection that some have already have had the virus but he didn't make that point but as EricTopol says much work to establish trust in vaccines as quick as possible to enhance roll outs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-distribution-60-minutes-2020-11-08/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1325677102209757187
 
DRW said:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/09...fective-early-data-from-large-trial-indicate/

Sounds very promising for this one (third week in November)
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Very promising data indeed. It will also be interesting to see if the vaccine modified the course in those who got Covid while on the vaccine. If it did, that would be very good news indeed. These analyses are based on the number of cases of Covid that occur, and this analysis will continue, but I think we can expect to see the accelerator pedal stepped on for early approval. This is a 2 shot vaccine, with the booster given 3 weeks after the initial, so there is one organisation needed to deliver it to the numbers eligible.
 
Ethan said:
Very promising data indeed. It will also be interesting to see if the vaccine modified the course in those who got Covid while on the vaccine. If it did, that would be very good news indeed. These analyses are based on the number of cases of Covid that occur, and this analysis will continue, but I think we can expect to see the accelerator pedal stepped on for early approval. This is a 2 shot vaccine, with the booster given 3 weeks after the initial, so there is one organisation needed to deliver it to the numbers eligible.
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Best news I’ve read since the WHS confirmed that, despite my recent one shot Congu reduction, I now get one MORE shot than I did a month ago.

Seriously, though, how refreshing to read something positive. Although how the eternally doom laden Daily Mail intend to report this without sounding negative is anybody’s guess.
 
Billysboots said:
Best news I’ve read since the WHS confirmed that, despite my recent one shot Congu reduction, I now get one MORE shot than I did a month ago.

Seriously, though, how refreshing to read something positive. Although how the eternally doom laden Daily Mail intend to report this without sounding negative is anybody’s guess.
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90% effective, what about the 10%? Who cares about them? What if you are in the 10%?

Any good? :D

(agreed though, nice to see something positive)
 
Tashyboy said:
Deffo good news re the vaccine, but to pay £670k of taxpayers brass on a pr firm promoting vaccines seems wrong.
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Tash, I think its the links of the individuals involved rather than the money itself
The reality is that for any mass vaccination programme to be successful - you need to have public promotion - that applies even to covid

Safety, how many doses, how, when, why not etc are all public questions that need to be communicated to get maximum uptake

I generally agree however that the swine have really come out to feed in 2020
 
Ethan said:
Very promising data indeed. It will also be interesting to see if the vaccine modified the course in those who got Covid while on the vaccine. If it did, that would be very good news indeed. These analyses are based on the number of cases of Covid that occur, and this analysis will continue, but I think we can expect to see the accelerator pedal stepped on for early approval. This is a 2 shot vaccine, with the booster given 3 weeks after the initial, so there is one organisation needed to deliver it to the numbers eligible.
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My only caveat is that it seems to be a short outcome duration - i think within 28 days after the 2nd dose - really we want to see 100 days + protection
I may be misreading the press data mind - will wait for a JAMA/NEJM commentary :geek:
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Ha ha. How negative and twisted would you become? To constantly look for the bad side of everything and everyone must be draining.
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Having been in my job for 29 years I can vouch for that!

Seriously, though, when all this is over, which it will be one day, I hope the inevitable inquiry into the U.K. response has the part played by the press and media right at its heart. Some of the reporting has been nothing short of reprehensible.
 
Italian outcast said:
My only caveat is that it seems to be a short outcome duration - i think within 28 days after the 2nd dose - really we want to see 100 days + protection
I may be misreading the press data mind - will wait for a JAMA/NEJM commentary :geek:
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Looks like the specific endpoint is 28 days, which is fine, but all patients will remain in safety follow up after that, and with rolling recruitment, some will have been in study a bit longer. Longer efficacy follow up is also planned.
 
Billysboots said:
Having been in my job for 29 years I can vouch for that!

Seriously, though, when all this is over, which it will be one day, I hope the inevitable inquiry into the U.K. response has the part played by the press and media right at its heart. Some of the reporting has been nothing short of reprehensible.
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Sadly not unique to just this situation but I totally agree. No doubt if there was an enquiry it would be headed by a former editor :rolleyes:.

29 years, bet you don't have a single grey hair :LOL:
 
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