Trion Z Bands - Any Good?

[Dougie]

I think you gotta suck it and see.

No matter what the cynics say, for some people they work.

Ok so we don't know why, but that isn't important. Ok for many they don't work, but that's not important either.

If they're good for you, go for it.

That's pretty much the way I'm thinking at the moment.

For less than £20, if it works - great, if not then it's no big deal.

 

[viscount17]

Any treatment supported only by anecdote is bogus.

that's a bit sweeping. there are a number of treatments out there that have no scientific basis that have worked <u>in some instances</u>. odd-ball treatments, homeopathy, laying-on hands etc have seen cancer go into remission when conventional medicine has given up, so bogus is perhaps the wrong word.

there are bogus treatments, instant fat cures being one.

if unsupported except by anecdotal evidence I think they class as 'unproven'.

 

[AndrewG]

Any treatment supported only by anecdote is bogus.

that's a bit sweeping. there are a number of treatments out there that have no scientific basis that have worked <u>in some instances</u>. odd-ball treatments, homeopathy, laying-on hands etc have seen cancer go into remission when conventional medicine has given up, so bogus is perhaps the wrong word.

there are bogus treatments, instant fat cures being one.

if unsupported except by anecdotal evidence I think they class as 'unproven'.

Or, more likely, the cancers went in to remission (as they do from time to time), and it so happens that a bogus treatment was tried (as tends to happen with patient suffering from cancer)... I did see a study once that showed that the level of spontaneous remission was exactly the same as remissions due to application of these dubious therapies... Funny that. I'll see if I can track it down.

 

[thecraw]

These things can work for some folk, and dont work for others, possibly mind over matter who knows.

I have trouble with my right wrist due to a historic fracture in my wrist which I didnt get seen to at the time and when I finally went to A+E three weeks later still complaining of the wrist being sore I was told the healing process had already started and there was nothing they could do.

Anyway I have been bothered with pain, especially in the cold in this wrist ever since. After loads of physio , ultrasound, excercises etc it never ever let up until I was told by a friend at the golf club to try someone he knew he did accupuncture. My friend swore that this stuff was great. I laughed this off as being mumbo jumbo crap at the time but ended up trying it a couple of months later.

Lets just say I was truely amazed by accupuncture and it did work for me! I had many little pins put in my wrist and a couple at my elbow. I could instantly feel a tremendous build up of heat at my wrist and the pain did disapear after the session.

I would recommend accupuncture to anyone and if the wrist bands help you then stick with them.

 

[Ethan]

Any treatment supported only by anecdote is bogus.

that's a bit sweeping. there are a number of treatments out there that have no scientific basis that have worked <u>in some instances</u>. odd-ball treatments, homeopathy, laying-on hands etc have seen cancer go into remission when conventional medicine has given up, so bogus is perhaps the wrong word.

there are bogus treatments, instant fat cures being one.

if unsupported except by anecdotal evidence I think they class as 'unproven'.

Or, more likely, the cancers went in to remission (as they do from time to time), and it so happens that a bogus treatment was tried (as tends to happen with patient suffering from cancer)... I did see a study once that showed that the level of spontaneous remission was exactly the same as remissions due to application of these dubious therapies... Funny that. I'll see if I can track it down.

Spontaneous remission in cancer definitely happens, although it may not necessarily be durable. I am a doctor who runs clinical trials in cancer, as it happens. One of the big problems is the false association between an action and an effect. Last Saturday I accidentally left my usual golf shoes in the house, so used a back up pair. I birdied the first hole. Was that because I wore those shoes?

With a lot of this anecdote based stuff, you also get selective recall. People who think they had a good effect are more likely to remember and report than those who do not. They will also often falsely believe that the treatment/charm/spell was the cause of the good effect.

 

[Wildrover]

I wear a Q-Link pendant which is similar to the bands in that it contains a large coil of thin copper wire which allows it to set up a magnetic field. I've worn it for a few years now and in my opinion it has helped with my dodgy knee and the wrist pain I was getting from time to time has gone. Is it down to the pendant or not, is it the placebo effect? I just know that I've felt better while wearing it and it can't do any harm can it.

 

[Faldo_Fan]

I've been wearing the copper band/couple of magnets variety for a month now and like it or not i haven't had any pain in my left elbow after hitting 100 or so balls off of the hard ground (with short irons i take Vijay Singh sized divots) that i usually would, so i'm sticking with it for now and i am one of the biggest sceptics of alternative therapy!!!!

 

[Faldo_Fan]

Anyway i've heared that a guaranteed cure for all ills is a product called Snake Oil!!!

 

[Gustavo]

I wear one of these, they are very light indeed and don't get in the way like my normal watch would whilst playing golf. Plus it saves me looking like a twit checking my mobile just to see what the time is.

I can't vouch for it's 'medicinal' qualities, as I've not noticed anything significant.

http://www.breosport.co.uk/item/Brand_RoamwatchBlack_195_0_2208_1.html

 

[CrapHacker]

Spontaneous remission in cancer definitely happens, although it may not necessarily be durable. I am a doctor who runs clinical trials in cancer, as it happens. One of the big problems is the false association between an action and an effect. Last Saturday I accidentally left my usual golf shoes in the house, so used a back up pair. I birdied the first hole. Was that because I wore those shoes?

So what you're saying is that you don't know what caused the remission. If you don't know what caused it, then how can you be so adamant that any 'faith' treatment is false association.

If we cannot confirm the power that the human brain has, is it correct to condemn it, or should we wait until we have greater knowledge and can prove it one way or the other ?

As for your shoes. Maybe the spare pair are less worn than your usual pair, so they gave you that extra bit of grip on your second shot. So whilst it might not be an obvious link, there's a possibility that there is cause and effect.

( Just keeping my options open )